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how about from the official danish government website, if you don't trust my personal experience of living in denmark and moving back to the USA. https://denma

how about from the official danish government website, if you don't trust my personal experience of living in denmark and moving back to the USA. https://denmark.dk/people-and-culture/happiness https://denmark.dk/people-and-culture/happiness https://denmark.dk/society-and-business/the-danish-labour-market https://denmark.dk/society-and-business/the-danish-labour-ma...

bazoom42 4y ago
I think you misunderstand what those pages are saying. Working conditions like minimum wage is NOT guaranteed by the government in Denmark. Indeed, this is sometimes called the “Danish model”, where such conditions are negotiated between employer an employee/union, and the government stays out of these negotiatons. It is pretty funny you think government guarantees has been “marketed”, when the touted “Danish model” is exactly the oppposite.
- jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
  I find it absolutely riveting that you think unpaid labor, which is what we are talking about from the article, is legal or encouraged in Denmark, let alone the United States.
  - bazoom42 4y ago
    Unpaid labor in the form of internships is legal in Denmark.
    - jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
      So when the Danish government said they were "safeguarding the welfare of employees" in the link above, was this class of human excluded in your eyes? Do they not deserve to be paid for their time? As you are probably aware, there is a push to make unpaid internships illegal in the USA. Bernie Sanders wants to make the USA "more like Denmark", but in this regard the two countries are already the same, no?
      - bazoom42 4y ago
        Im not that familiar with Bernie Sanders policies, but it seems he is in favor of a federal minimum wage, which means he isnt actually promoting the Danish Model for the labour market. Maybe he wants a social safety net and healthcare like in Denmark, but not the Danish Model for the labour market?
        jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
        Here is a tweet of him saying he doesn't want unpaid internships to exist. https://mobile.twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1126177544372461569?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/berniesanders/status/112617754437...
PKop 4y ago
care to say why you moved back?
- jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
  I will be open and honest in saying that I make a higher salary here in the USA, I enjoy owning firearms, and I have the unique luxury of having an acre of land of trees and grass but still am only 10 minutes from a whole foods. It's a very unique type of life and I feel very grateful. These things are important to me, and maybe some of that is possible in Denmark too. However, Denmark was a very fun country to party in before I was married and so on :)
  - PKop 4y ago
    Makes sense to me.
jopsen 4y ago
Yeah, Danes (including me) like to think all is well, and while it's pretty good -- there are lots of things that could be better!
- jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
  A very fair summary of your country :) At least you have a process which you can influence for change. Other countries, like my own, seem to be becoming a free for all everyday!

bazoom42 4y ago

I think you misunderstand what those pages are saying. Working conditions like minimum wage is NOT guaranteed by the government in Denmark. Indeed, this is sometimes called the “Danish model”, where such conditions are negotiated between employer an employee/union, and the government stays out of these negotiatons. It is pretty funny you think government guarantees has been “marketed”, when the touted “Danish model” is exactly the oppposite.

jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
I find it absolutely riveting that you think unpaid labor, which is what we are talking about from the article, is legal or encouraged in Denmark, let alone the United States.
- bazoom42 4y ago
  Unpaid labor in the form of internships is legal in Denmark.
  - jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
    So when the Danish government said they were "safeguarding the welfare of employees" in the link above, was this class of human excluded in your eyes? Do they not deserve to be paid for their time? As you are probably aware, there is a push to make unpaid internships illegal in the USA. Bernie Sanders wants to make the USA "more like Denmark", but in this regard the two countries are already the same, no?
    - bazoom42 4y ago
      Im not that familiar with Bernie Sanders policies, but it seems he is in favor of a federal minimum wage, which means he isnt actually promoting the Danish Model for the labour market. Maybe he wants a social safety net and healthcare like in Denmark, but not the Danish Model for the labour market?
      - jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
        Here is a tweet of him saying he doesn't want unpaid internships to exist. https://mobile.twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1126177544372461569?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/berniesanders/status/112617754437...

PKop 4y ago

care to say why you moved back?

jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
I will be open and honest in saying that I make a higher salary here in the USA, I enjoy owning firearms, and I have the unique luxury of having an acre of land of trees and grass but still am only 10 minutes from a whole foods. It's a very unique type of life and I feel very grateful. These things are important to me, and maybe some of that is possible in Denmark too. However, Denmark was a very fun country to party in before I was married and so on :)
- PKop 4y ago
  Makes sense to me.

jopsen 4y ago

Yeah, Danes (including me) like to think all is well, and while it's pretty good -- there are lots of things that could be better!

jsiaajdsdaa 4y ago
A very fair summary of your country :) At least you have a process which you can influence for change. Other countries, like my own, seem to be becoming a free for all everyday!