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Or to run on MacOS without crashing.

by thecleaner 4y ago

gbear605 4y ago
Huh? I use LibreOffice frequently on macOS without any crashing at all. Is this a common issue?
- jimmygrapes 4y ago
  Not macOS here but I've crashed LibreOffice products (usually Writer) countless times on Debian by doing such things as moving/resizing line drawings, attempting to add basic charts, attempting to adjust wrap settings for images, replacing images with other images, and setting tab stops when there are things other than pure text in the flow. I can live with most of these, although they are annoying. I just wish I had a more consistent experience so that I could contribute to fixing these issues, but it doesn't seem consistent at all; once I restart the software and try the task again, it usually works relatively fine (exporting to pdf/docx for my colleagues' benefit making a mess of it notwithstanding). I've since settled on doing the bulk of the work in LibreWriter, exporting to docx, then opening in Word on a separate system to massage the appearance. And before anyone chimes in, no, LaTeX (or Markdown, etc.) would not be appropriate for these projects due to the mental overhead I'd have myself. I'm a visual person, I need to see what it looks like as I work and adjust with immediate visual feedback, and that visual aspect is often critical to the final product. Word is phenomenal even with the missteps and lacking bits, and I pray (ineffectually) that Microsoft will eventually makes a properly compatible version for me that isn't plagued with the issues and feature disparities the SPA web versions are.
  - teddyh 4y ago
    Do you run Wayland, by any chance? Last I tried Wayland, Libreoffice simply crashed on startup.
    - jimmygrapes 4y ago
      I don't think I do, no. I'm really a fairly novice user, since I've only used Ubuntu here and there since 12.04 (I think) and not committing until 18.04, then switching to Debian Jesse with... I think it's GNOME. So basically the same thing as Ubuntu? I do wish I understood more about the underlying tech and window managers and such, because I know I could get more out of it all, but I really just follow poorly written blog tutorials for settings things up until it's "good enough". I am scared to play around much more for fear of everything becoming unusable, since that's been my experience in the past with the ALSA/Jack/PulseAudio mess and with video card drivers.
      - teddyh 4y ago
        You probably do run Wayland then, since it became the default in Debian 10 (buster). “To use the X11 backend by default, uncomment the WaylandEnable=false line in the /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf file.” — https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland

Or to run on MacOS without crashing.

gbear605 4y ago

Huh? I use LibreOffice frequently on macOS without any crashing at all. Is this a common issue?

jimmygrapes 4y ago
Not macOS here but I've crashed LibreOffice products (usually Writer) countless times on Debian by doing such things as moving/resizing line drawings, attempting to add basic charts, attempting to adjust wrap settings for images, replacing images with other images, and setting tab stops when there are things other than pure text in the flow. I can live with most of these, although they are annoying. I just wish I had a more consistent experience so that I could contribute to fixing these issues, but it doesn't seem consistent at all; once I restart the software and try the task again, it usually works relatively fine (exporting to pdf/docx for my colleagues' benefit making a mess of it notwithstanding). I've since settled on doing the bulk of the work in LibreWriter, exporting to docx, then opening in Word on a separate system to massage the appearance. And before anyone chimes in, no, LaTeX (or Markdown, etc.) would not be appropriate for these projects due to the mental overhead I'd have myself. I'm a visual person, I need to see what it looks like as I work and adjust with immediate visual feedback, and that visual aspect is often critical to the final product. Word is phenomenal even with the missteps and lacking bits, and I pray (ineffectually) that Microsoft will eventually makes a properly compatible version for me that isn't plagued with the issues and feature disparities the SPA web versions are.
- teddyh 4y ago
  Do you run Wayland, by any chance? Last I tried Wayland, Libreoffice simply crashed on startup.
  - jimmygrapes 4y ago
    I don't think I do, no. I'm really a fairly novice user, since I've only used Ubuntu here and there since 12.04 (I think) and not committing until 18.04, then switching to Debian Jesse with... I think it's GNOME. So basically the same thing as Ubuntu? I do wish I understood more about the underlying tech and window managers and such, because I know I could get more out of it all, but I really just follow poorly written blog tutorials for settings things up until it's "good enough". I am scared to play around much more for fear of everything becoming unusable, since that's been my experience in the past with the ALSA/Jack/PulseAudio mess and with video card drivers.
    - teddyh 4y ago
      You probably do run Wayland then, since it became the default in Debian 10 (buster). “To use the X11 backend by default, uncomment the WaylandEnable=false line in the /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf file.” — https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland