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I'm sorry, but what is the problem? We already own more general-purpose computers than we can carry, might be the problem.

dredmorbius 4y ago
sto_hristo's already replied here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31631979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31631979 For myself, based on over ten years' experience with Android, and quoting myself: [T]he OSes themselves are BDSM nightmares. Because the apps aren’t trusted (very rightfully so), they can’t share storage, so there’s next to no interaction between applications. Coming from Unix, the land of pipes (literally streaming data between programs to do useful things) this is … staggering. Apps themselves are aimed at the minimum viable user, economics are painful, and the result is that a million minimally useful buggy pieces of shit bloom, with no way for users to assess which ones don’t actually suck manure through a straw. (Spoiler alert: they all do.) User is denied root. There’s little option for adblocking or firewalling on-device. ... Touch: the fact that a click and a drag cannot be reliably distinguished … just fucking kills me. Android’s had ten motherfucking years to sort this, and hasn’t figured it out. Hardware vendors are a fucking disaster. Everything I’ve ever had or used from Samsung has been a massive disappointment (from electronics to appliances), I consider the brand a warning label. Post-purchase OS upgrades from any vendor appear to be exceedingly rare if at all available. Android has been a privacy disaster from day one. ... https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/880e5c403edb013918e1002590d8e506 https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/880e5c403edb013918e100... Termux is the one Android app that does not specifically suck. (Einkbro is rapidly approaching that status, credit where due.) Tablets, preferably e-ink, are quite good for reading textual material, if the display is sufficiently large (8" is about the minimum, I prefer 10 -- 13"). For virtually any generative / productivity tasks, a laptop is preferred. Sketching is a possible exception, though desktop + Wacom tablet is probably better. It's the OS and application ecosystem, plus the pervasive surveillance state, that have me utterly turned off tablets. I don't think my views are widely held. I do think they're valid.
- rollcat 4y ago
  You're basically repeating what I said in my original post. Different people have different needs and expectations for their devices. sto_hristo is yet to explain what device they think would work better for an artist as a drawing tablet.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    And answering someone who states that they have a specific set of interests and needs with ... a completely different use case ... is ignoring their argument. sto_hristo didn't deny your use case. You're denying sto_hristo's.
    - rollcat 4y ago
      > And answering someone who states that they have a specific set of interests and needs with ... a completely different use case ... is ignoring their argument. You're twisting the situation 180 degrees. I have specifically stated that different people have different computing needs, implying there are no one-size-fits-all solutions. sto_hristo is trying to convince me otherwise, apparently they know for a fact that my partner doesn't need an iPad. Why do I even bother replying to either of you?
      - dredmorbius 4y ago
        I'm sorry, but I'd missed where sto_hristo made the case that there is a "one-size-fits-all solution". Could you point that out to me? Thanks.

dredmorbius 4y ago

sto_hristo's already replied here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31631979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31631979 For myself, based on over ten years' experience with Android, and quoting myself: [T]he OSes themselves are BDSM nightmares. Because the apps aren’t trusted (very rightfully so), they can’t share storage, so there’s next to no interaction between applications. Coming from Unix, the land of pipes (literally streaming data between programs to do useful things) this is … staggering. Apps themselves are aimed at the minimum viable user, economics are painful, and the result is that a million minimally useful buggy pieces of shit bloom, with no way for users to assess which ones don’t actually suck manure through a straw. (Spoiler alert: they all do.) User is denied root. There’s little option for adblocking or firewalling on-device. ... Touch: the fact that a click and a drag cannot be reliably distinguished … just fucking kills me. Android’s had ten motherfucking years to sort this, and hasn’t figured it out. Hardware vendors are a fucking disaster. Everything I’ve ever had or used from Samsung has been a massive disappointment (from electronics to appliances), I consider the brand a warning label. Post-purchase OS upgrades from any vendor appear to be exceedingly rare if at all available. Android has been a privacy disaster from day one. ... https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/880e5c403edb013918e1002590d8e506 https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/880e5c403edb013918e100... Termux is the one Android app that does not specifically suck. (Einkbro is rapidly approaching that status, credit where due.) Tablets, preferably e-ink, are quite good for reading textual material, if the display is sufficiently large (8" is about the minimum, I prefer 10 -- 13"). For virtually any generative / productivity tasks, a laptop is preferred. Sketching is a possible exception, though desktop + Wacom tablet is probably better. It's the OS and application ecosystem, plus the pervasive surveillance state, that have me utterly turned off tablets. I don't think my views are widely held. I do think they're valid.

rollcat 4y ago
You're basically repeating what I said in my original post. Different people have different needs and expectations for their devices. sto_hristo is yet to explain what device they think would work better for an artist as a drawing tablet.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  And answering someone who states that they have a specific set of interests and needs with ... a completely different use case ... is ignoring their argument. sto_hristo didn't deny your use case. You're denying sto_hristo's.
  - rollcat 4y ago
    > And answering someone who states that they have a specific set of interests and needs with ... a completely different use case ... is ignoring their argument. You're twisting the situation 180 degrees. I have specifically stated that different people have different computing needs, implying there are no one-size-fits-all solutions. sto_hristo is trying to convince me otherwise, apparently they know for a fact that my partner doesn't need an iPad. Why do I even bother replying to either of you?
    - dredmorbius 4y ago
      I'm sorry, but I'd missed where sto_hristo made the case that there is a "one-size-fits-all solution". Could you point that out to me? Thanks.