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Tesla customer gets new Model 3 with cracks
- colordrops 4y agoMy intuition is telling me that this is a hit piece. A wave of new electric cars has arrived. I know many people with Teslas and this is certainly not the norm.
- Androider 4y agoTesla's are well known for having lots of defects right at delivery. https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/v3jkn3/update_my_brand_new_model_s_plaid_has_17/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/v3jkn3/update_...
- spoonjim 4y agoIt’s not the norm but these basic quality fails happen much more with Teslas than with any other car. They invented a much better powertrain but are still catching up on figuring out how to build the rest of the car.
- throw457 4y agoDrive fast and deliver broken things.
- sebazzz 4y agoPublic shareholders want more every year. No grow is a lower stock price. Eventually quality needs to suffer to maintain growth. Until it doesn't.
- s5300 4y agoBetter than my Lincoln, that uses complete Ford parts that should have decades of QA testing behind them, but still shipped out with completely defective airbags I wasn’t alerted to until years down the line. Also every single one of the door handles broke internally, which was apparently common on these models.
- dexterdog 4y agoI'm not sure how you consider one better than the other. Were your problems not covered as well?
- s5300 4y agoI’m not particularly trying to say one is better than the other I’m just tired of people ragging on Tesla, essentially a baby of a company - this coming from somebody who’s been fairly pissed about musk’s dumb antics the past few years - when companies that are literally a century old are unable to guarantee quality off the line. Somebody else mentioned the airbag manufacturer - no, it is not the airbag manufacturer who had an automobile come off the line for sale to me. It was Ford. A century something old company, who in this age, should never have let something like this happen. & yes - Ford has been a pain in the fucking ass back when I was trying to get their various recalls taken care of. I think there were 6 on my car alone.
- tyrfing 4y agoFar be it for me to defend Ford's quality, but an airbag recall certainly isn't comparable to this. It was Takata's fault and affected a long list of OEMs, including Tesla. The real problem here is Tesla refusing to fix the product they delivered defective and which apparently won't even pass inspection in Germany. Issues happen, and most companies fix them rather than deal with the bad press.
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- Vladimof 4y agoFull self driving is the biggest joke... if at least they would have called it self-driving... or half-self-driving
- throwntoday 4y agoWhy is this even a news story. Just refuse delivery or report it and get it repaired. Berlin is a new factory it's gonna have some bumps along the road. At least the issues aren't as prevalent as they were during hell week for M3 a couple years ago.
- marcinzm 4y agoYou jack up the car and look at details of the underbody every time you buy a factory new car? Tesla is refusing to fix the issue: >The lawyer is now asking Tesla out of court for a new delivery, i.e. for an exchange. But Tesla's reaction is anything but customer-friendly: the cosmetic impairments are on the underside of the vehicle and are therefore irrelevant. To fix this you would have to replace the entire battery unit, which you are welcome to do - but only at the expense of Stocker himself!
- Aachen 4y agoIs it purely cosmetic? It's quoted as Tesla's claim but it's not clear whether this is disputed. "Cracks" in the underbody (I first assumed paint when I saw the title) sounded much more serious. Edit: translated the article and this being cosmetic is actually the core of the dispute. Since it won't pass the first safety inspection, it seems obviously false and the product is not usable as one could reasonably have expect and thus Tesla will have to fix it or refund the car under European consumer law as I know it (not sure if there are exceptions for vehicles).
- marcinzm 4y agoIt doesn't seem cosmetic as, if I read correctly, an expert failed to pass the car for German car safety standards during an inspection. Despite that Tesla isn't going to fix it.
- technofiend 4y agoI know nothing about German law, so sincere question - does enough of these issues cause Germany to ban sale of these cars in their country?
- devmor 4y agoStandard fare for Tesla. The complete lack of finishing consistency is one of the first things that turned me away from them when I originally wanted a Model 3.
- havblue 4y agoI'm kind of confused as to the benefits of a Tesla. You get a car that has less rigorous quality control and is less maintainable. Why take the risk?
- gnopgnip 4y agoWarranty covers those. You get the charging network
- delecti 4y agoIsn't the point of the story that warranty doesn't cover the shoddy quality?
- philistine 4y agoYou need to pay for the charging network. It’s no longer free.
- userbinator 4y agoBut it's environmentally green and trendy to have a Tesla!
- VectorLock 4y agoCachet of saying you own a Tesla is about it.
- gammabetadelta 4y agoit's fun to drive. it's got the best charging network (in the united states). they charge fast. it goes vroom vroom.
- userbinator 4y agoMore than the question of how that got past QA, I'm more curious how something like that would even crack unless subjected to extreme forces.
- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 4y agoQuality Control (QC)
- ramesh31 4y agoA lot of pearl clutching here. Even Toyota has defects. This is what happens when you go from selling 10,000 cars to 1,000,000 cars in a couple years.
- cam0 4y agoI love my model 3, but I'm glad I leased it. The electric motor is awesome, it's a blast to drive, charging is inexpensive and convenient. But the build quality is undeniably poor (for the entry level, base model 3). I've never been inside a model S or X - hopefully the $100k models are built a lot better than my vehicle, but if I hoped to keep a car for 8+ years I'd probably go back to a German brand.
- codeulike 4y agoThere are 2 million Tesla cars on the road now. Is anyone keeping track of which ones work ok?