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> Maybe 10 years ago ARM had a "friendly" stance towards their customer base, but nowadays they're frankly no better than Qualcomm. I'm sick of this kind of co

by mlyle 4y ago

> Maybe 10 years ago ARM had a "friendly" stance towards their customer base, but nowadays they're frankly no better than Qualcomm. I'm sick of this kind of comparison, like I detail here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31578523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31578523 Qualcomm systematically shook down everyone in entire industries with a web of technologies, threatening "well, even if you didn't use ____, you'll also violate ____ and ____. And, we'll cut off your access to important chips in ___, ___ ,and ___." Between the two, ARM is an absolute pleasure to work with. > If you want to make a usable ARM computer today, you need to have ISA extensions out-of-the-box and probably design your own cores Samsung just moved from proprietary cores in flagships to Cortex-X + A710 + A510. Ditto for Snapdragon 8. Graviton is using ARM Neoverse-N1/N2. Actual cores from ARM proper are a bigger share of usage than almost anytime before, with Apple being the main remaining exception.

smoldesu 4y ago
I think we'll have to agree to disagree, then. I don't think your other comment was right either: people typically give Apple more scrutiny because A. they are the larger company and B. they have much more of our personal data than Meta does In this case, I think the comparison is apt because the only thing that matters is if the current IP owners are abusing their power. In this case, I think ARM and Qualcomm would wind up to be about equally as tyrannical. If you think ARM's slate is clean, you should read into the neverending drama that is ARM China. Nobody is necessarily good here.
- mlyle 4y ago
  > If you think ARM's slate is clean, you should read into the neverending drama that is ARM China. Nobody is necessarily good here. I don't understand how having a regional subsidiary going off the rails on their own has anything to do with the typical experience of a licensee.

by mlyle 4y ago

smoldesu 4y ago

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, then. I don't think your other comment was right either: people typically give Apple more scrutiny because A. they are the larger company and B. they have much more of our personal data than Meta does In this case, I think the comparison is apt because the only thing that matters is if the current IP owners are abusing their power. In this case, I think ARM and Qualcomm would wind up to be about equally as tyrannical. If you think ARM's slate is clean, you should read into the neverending drama that is ARM China. Nobody is necessarily good here.

mlyle 4y ago
> If you think ARM's slate is clean, you should read into the neverending drama that is ARM China. Nobody is necessarily good here. I don't understand how having a regional subsidiary going off the rails on their own has anything to do with the typical experience of a licensee.