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Their Amphoras gave away their origins long ago. The corruption of the name to "Palestine" does a disservice to the history.

slim 4y ago
Rome is guilty of that as well. When they invented latin, they transliterated greec lettet Phi to the letter P
- matrix12 4y ago
  And the Punic, Punicians who spoke a "Hebrew" when invading with Elephants.
  - kurupt213 4y ago
    Hebrew was just one of many Semitic languages.
    - matrix12 4y ago
      Except they were essentially the same language, and an alphabet. Unlike say Eblaite.
  - coliveira 4y ago
    It's the other way around, hebrew is just a derivative of the language spoken by the Phoenicians, also closely related to the Aramaic that became the common language over that whole area. Hebrew was, for a long time, just a cerimonial language used by the jewish religion.
aerodog 4y ago
In the Muslim world, they are called "Philisteen" or the like. "Palestine" is an Anglification.
- encephalos 4y ago
  I’ve read / heard various interpretations on the relationship/lack of of The Philistines and The Palestinians. The main one being, that original Philistines are not modern-day Palestinians, yet the etymology of the name seems to have its roots. The alternative etymology is that Palestinian literally translates to παλαιστής in Greek which means "fighter" and in Turkish (the π/μπ sound is written and pronounced as b, so Balestinian where a Balesti is also a fighter in Turkish). I’ve also heard/read that The Philistines were individuals (possibly some type of proto-Greeks) that were essentially outcasted and banished from Crete and other Aegean States as they were problem individuals, à la Australia? So thieves, liars, shillers, connivers, etc. Which ultimately settled in modern-day Gaza/Israel. Last year, there were new scrolls discovered that were dated as BC and contained the contents of some of the most important books in The Torah and written in Ancient Greek - where the Hebrew texts of these books were discovered much much later as in centuries later. There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation (orders from the State of Israel) which has always puzzled historians and archeologists. As if, to avoid rewriting any history as has been written or further disprove / prove any claims individuals have long argued for. Now that the site is back to being open (I think) for such further explorations, maybe we’ll get more truths / alternative histories. I once heard from local Cretans that back in the post WWII era, there had been Israeli divers that found Hebraic potteries/treasures off the Cretan coast that had looked aged, but ultimately were found to have been planted and staged a few decades earlier. Again, never confirmed any of this, so it’s all here-say, but there’s definitely some forces that are or have been trying to keep certain truths and facts well-hidden out there.
  - zozbot234 4y ago
    > There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation Why is that surprising? Given the topic, some enduring Philistinism is only to be expected.
    - 4y ago

slim 4y ago

Rome is guilty of that as well. When they invented latin, they transliterated greec lettet Phi to the letter P

matrix12 4y ago
And the Punic, Punicians who spoke a "Hebrew" when invading with Elephants.
- kurupt213 4y ago
  Hebrew was just one of many Semitic languages.
  - matrix12 4y ago
    Except they were essentially the same language, and an alphabet. Unlike say Eblaite.
- coliveira 4y ago
  It's the other way around, hebrew is just a derivative of the language spoken by the Phoenicians, also closely related to the Aramaic that became the common language over that whole area. Hebrew was, for a long time, just a cerimonial language used by the jewish religion.

aerodog 4y ago

In the Muslim world, they are called "Philisteen" or the like. "Palestine" is an Anglification.

encephalos 4y ago
I’ve read / heard various interpretations on the relationship/lack of of The Philistines and The Palestinians. The main one being, that original Philistines are not modern-day Palestinians, yet the etymology of the name seems to have its roots. The alternative etymology is that Palestinian literally translates to παλαιστής in Greek which means "fighter" and in Turkish (the π/μπ sound is written and pronounced as b, so Balestinian where a Balesti is also a fighter in Turkish). I’ve also heard/read that The Philistines were individuals (possibly some type of proto-Greeks) that were essentially outcasted and banished from Crete and other Aegean States as they were problem individuals, à la Australia? So thieves, liars, shillers, connivers, etc. Which ultimately settled in modern-day Gaza/Israel. Last year, there were new scrolls discovered that were dated as BC and contained the contents of some of the most important books in The Torah and written in Ancient Greek - where the Hebrew texts of these books were discovered much much later as in centuries later. There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation (orders from the State of Israel) which has always puzzled historians and archeologists. As if, to avoid rewriting any history as has been written or further disprove / prove any claims individuals have long argued for. Now that the site is back to being open (I think) for such further explorations, maybe we’ll get more truths / alternative histories. I once heard from local Cretans that back in the post WWII era, there had been Israeli divers that found Hebraic potteries/treasures off the Cretan coast that had looked aged, but ultimately were found to have been planted and staged a few decades earlier. Again, never confirmed any of this, so it’s all here-say, but there’s definitely some forces that are or have been trying to keep certain truths and facts well-hidden out there.
- zozbot234 4y ago
  > There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation Why is that surprising? Given the topic, some enduring Philistinism is only to be expected.
  - 4y ago