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> My rule is: if I get a single notification that I find useless, I'll immediately disable that notification channel (I'm on Android; I'm not sure if iOS has a
by izacus 4y ago
> My rule is: if I get a single notification that I find useless, I'll immediately disable that notification channel (I'm on Android; I'm not sure if iOS has a concept of channel-specific settings) for that app. Even if the channel can include useful notifications, as the article discusses.
Well, the developers have started fighting against that by not splitting notifications into channels anymore. Now you just get "General" channel were basic functionality and spam can't be separated.
The modern world of user abuse is great.
- distances 4y agoI usually simply uninstall the app on the first clearly spammy notification. Why wouldn't I? It immediately sours the app image. If it's borderline I will first try silencing the channel like the parent commenter.
- izacus 4y agoThose rules only work until you're required to have such app installed to do, for example, credit card payments.
- fxtentacle 4y agoWhere i live, GDPR and related laws make it illegal to mix advertising permissions with functional permissions. So that's never going to happen.
- izacus 4y agoI've spent plenty of time working on GDPR compliance in EU and I can directly tell you there's nothing in GDPR that would say anything like that. GDPR talks about data collection and says nothing about having your own business spam you with advertisement (as long as they don't collect data outside their GDPR restrictions).
- anticristi 4y ago> Consent is presumed not to be freely given if it does not allow separate consent to be given to different personal data processing operations despite it being appropriate in the individual case [...] https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/
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- scarface74 4y agoThat has absolutely nothing to do with notifications and pop ups.
- dmkii 4y agoYou’re right, but only if the company wouldn’t track whether you’ve seen or even received that message. So yes, general or even contextual messages would be allowed, but “You haven’t seen X in 9 days” would imply processing personal data for marketing purposes.
- scarface74 4y agoWith iOS, they send the message to Apple’s servers, Apple sends the message to the user’s device and the device decides whether to display the pop up based on the user’s settings. Neither the third party app nor Apple knows whether the message has been seen unless the user clicks on the message that causes it to open the app.
- l33t2328 4y agoI don’t see what this says about notifications
- tgsovlerkhgsel 4y agoWhich can be solved by finding a competitor with less abusive practices.
- teddyh 4y agoNot in a monopoly or oligopoly, which is the common case in markets with high barriers to entry.
- bee_rider 4y agoIf this a hypothetical? I can't think of any monopolies that I need to do business with that only do business through an app.
- JonChesterfield 4y agoMy bank's android app has more control over my account than any other way of interacting with them, including going into branches and posting forms. That's not strictly a monopoly but I'm on my fifth bank and they've all been similarly rubbish.
- bee_rider 4y agoHuh, interesting. I can't think of many notifications I would want from my bank. I've got an alarm for if my balance goes under a certain threshold, which I guess could be handled via a notification, but IMO it is easier to just make the threshold high enough that I can treat it as a "check-once-per-day" thing, and get the notifications via email.
- davidhowlett 4y agoAs a UK customer, I use Monzo bank and have pretty consistently had good experiences. They are a new bank. Recieving international money transfers was the only bit that they didn't support.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> Which can be solved by finding a competitor with less abusive practices For those with infinite time or for whom this is a single issue, yes. For the rest of us, disabling notifications isn’t too hard.
- throw1230 4y agoOne strike and you're out rule works perfectly fine for me. If they think they can abuse my attention with stuff like this, I immediately uninstall and go on with my life.
- gpt5 4y agoI've been struggling with the Uber app and Uber Eats who has been sending me ads which I found no way to disable. My problem is that I do want notifications for when my driver has arrived.
- wardedVibe 4y agoTry switching to lyft maybe?
- gpvos 4y agoYou could stop using Uber and Uber Eats.
- LadyCailin 4y agoYou could also be a hermit and live in the woods. Thats not really the point though. For paid services, I think it’s entirely reasonable to say that you don’t want to see ads.
- dredmorbius 4y agoThat's a good enough reason to nuke the app for me.
- dismalpedigree 4y agoI doubt it is a decision a developer arrived at. More likely some arm twisting by a short sighted and kpi driven product manager.
- josephcsible 4y agoIf Apple or Google really cared about their users, this is the kind of thing they'd ban, not third-party payment processors.
- Gigachad 4y agoThis is a fight that OS makers need to be in on. Apple added the concept of time critical notifications. It is or should be a tos violation if an app falsely labels spam as time critical.
- makeitdouble 4y agoI've seen that in a few apps, but worse case scenario you just lose some useful notifications. If it's not a critical app (e.g. my bank), that's a fine trade-off for me.
- wodenokoto 4y agoMy bank mixes ads and notifications. I get things like "Get 20% discount on this supermarket when shopping with your bank visa card this month"
- Too 4y agoYou also get some apps with 20+ channels, adding lots of needless mental burden just to understand exactly what you are disabling.