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I'm not sure if they actually use IRC internally, it could just be presenting itself as IRC to have an easy API with tons of libraries offering support. Interna

I'm not sure if they actually use IRC internally, it could just be presenting itself as IRC to have an easy API with tons of libraries offering support. Internally, it could translate IRC calls to whatever their internal architecture wants.

MaxLeiter 4y ago
At least a few years ago it was an actual IRC server and has been since justin.tv. I don’t believe they’ve changed it, as irc clients and bots have continued working with no IRC related changes. (I don’t think they’d invest in providing an IRC gateway; it’d be easier to just abandon it)
- matt74827289 4y ago
  An article from late 2015 indicates that IRC is nothing more than an API interface and not their underlying system. https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2015/12/18/twitch-engineering-an-introduction-and-overview-a23917b71a25/ https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2015/12/18/twitch-engineering-an-i...
  - tingletech 4y ago
    I thought IRC was just an API interface to begin with? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2812 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2812
  - dayjah 4y ago
    I can confirm this. Context: part of the engineering team that worked on the chat infrastructure around this time period. The history is basically: - v1: IRC API to process scoped servers (Python backend, haxe front end) - kept API as we migrated backed to go (via a terrible course through nodejs); this version allowed all participants to be in a room together (ie cross process servers). - once most of background was on go we migrated the front end (can’t remember to what) - backend then got revved a lot (a specialized team was convened to work on chat infrastructure full time) I left in 2017, no idea what has happened since.
  - MaxLeiter 4y ago
    Huh, cool. Not sure when it changed but https://techcrunch.com/2007/05/22/justin-tv-network-launches-more-shows-to-come/ https://techcrunch.com/2007/05/22/justin-tv-network-launches... is a source for justintv using IRC
    - pineconewarrior 4y ago
      I suppose we could dig into that twitch source code leak to confirm

MaxLeiter 4y ago

At least a few years ago it was an actual IRC server and has been since justin.tv. I don’t believe they’ve changed it, as irc clients and bots have continued working with no IRC related changes. (I don’t think they’d invest in providing an IRC gateway; it’d be easier to just abandon it)

matt74827289 4y ago
An article from late 2015 indicates that IRC is nothing more than an API interface and not their underlying system. https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2015/12/18/twitch-engineering-an-introduction-and-overview-a23917b71a25/ https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2015/12/18/twitch-engineering-an-i...
- tingletech 4y ago
  I thought IRC was just an API interface to begin with? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2812 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2812
- dayjah 4y ago
  I can confirm this. Context: part of the engineering team that worked on the chat infrastructure around this time period. The history is basically: - v1: IRC API to process scoped servers (Python backend, haxe front end) - kept API as we migrated backed to go (via a terrible course through nodejs); this version allowed all participants to be in a room together (ie cross process servers). - once most of background was on go we migrated the front end (can’t remember to what) - backend then got revved a lot (a specialized team was convened to work on chat infrastructure full time) I left in 2017, no idea what has happened since.
- MaxLeiter 4y ago
  Huh, cool. Not sure when it changed but https://techcrunch.com/2007/05/22/justin-tv-network-launches-more-shows-to-come/ https://techcrunch.com/2007/05/22/justin-tv-network-launches... is a source for justintv using IRC
  - pineconewarrior 4y ago
    I suppose we could dig into that twitch source code leak to confirm