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Nice cherry pick of my comment, You need to read the entire section to understand what I was saying, which clearly you have no interest in commenting on. The
by phpisthebest 4y ago
Nice cherry pick of my comment, You need to read the entire section to understand what I was saying, which clearly you have no interest in commenting on. The Charge was the NSA is/was violating the 4th amendment wholesale (and other Laws that prevent them from targeting US Citizens), so in the over all context of this "investigation" the 4th amendment is in fact not "silent" as you claim, it very clearly prohibits what the NSA is doing, you then claiming the FBI is "following" the 4th amendment in pursuit of silencing whistleblower that is attempting to alert the public of 4th amendment violation is ironic to say the least.
Using "State Secrets" laws to cover up constitutional violations is also somewhat dubious so then one has to ask what law is more important, a Federal Statute of Secrecy or the Constitution, clearly you think Federal Statute over rides the Constitution, I dont.
>>You don't think that police should have the power to seize evidence or arrest people at all?
Seize Evidence... Sure
Pre-trial confinement should be exclusively reserved for cases where there is clear and convincing evidence of a danger the individual poses to the wider public, i.e a rapist or murder...
Innocent until proven guilty right? Or do you reject that fundamental provision of the law as well, I am not sure because you seem to have a very cozy relationship with structures of authority.
- ajross 4y ago> Innocent until proven guilty right? We're not talking about a jury trial here! It's an arrest (attempt). The ability to detain people suspected of crimes and search their papers and persons is a core part of law enforcement. So much so, in fact, that the fourth amendment specifically calls it out and places limits on the ability. And to say it again: it is abundantly clear that those limits were not crossed in this case.