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Did you know how much it cost a simple white noise generator, powerful enough to cut most wireless comms (i.e. all doable on small devices who can't use kW LF e

by kkfx 4y ago

Did you know how much it cost a simple white noise generator, powerful enough to cut most wireless comms (i.e. all doable on small devices who can't use kW LF emissions)? That's even more important than moral considerations and irony on what future we heading to...

robonerd 4y ago
You'll be triangulated down by boomer HAMs (they call it 'fox hunting', it's a sub-hobby for them) and slapped with a fine by the FCC.
- kkfx 4y ago
  Surely, but I doubt a shooter count on being not found... He/she just need to power on the device at a certain moment in time...
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  Triangulating the source of gun shots would probably be quicker as the goal is to not get disabled by a drone before carrying out their plan. Transmitting a signal before you’re ready to act is a rookie mistake and will just get you caught.
  - robonerd 4y ago
    You're right, I was thinking from the perspective of people protesting the paranoia-state by jamming these drones, not shooters jamming drones. I don't expect these sort of drones to be effective and doubt they'll factor into the planning of shooters. But people fed up with authorities telling them to live in fear might want to strike out against these drones.
runlevel1 4y ago
Why require RF at all? An attacker could give the drone a location they know their target will be at and let the drone autonomously guide itself to the target. [This dramatization][^1] focuses on full autonomy, but I'd argue it applies just as much to the steps leading up to it. All the more reason to take this threat seriously now. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw
- kkfx 4y ago
  Since the actual state of objects automatic recognition the drone might autonomously fly to a location, perhaps following shooting noise, but once arrived can't easy decide who to hit and can't hit anyone. At the same location drone itself is an easy target to shot down.

by kkfx 4y ago

robonerd 4y ago

You'll be triangulated down by boomer HAMs (they call it 'fox hunting', it's a sub-hobby for them) and slapped with a fine by the FCC.

kkfx 4y ago
Surely, but I doubt a shooter count on being not found... He/she just need to power on the device at a certain moment in time...
UncleEntity 4y ago
Triangulating the source of gun shots would probably be quicker as the goal is to not get disabled by a drone before carrying out their plan. Transmitting a signal before you’re ready to act is a rookie mistake and will just get you caught.
- robonerd 4y ago
  You're right, I was thinking from the perspective of people protesting the paranoia-state by jamming these drones, not shooters jamming drones. I don't expect these sort of drones to be effective and doubt they'll factor into the planning of shooters. But people fed up with authorities telling them to live in fear might want to strike out against these drones.

runlevel1 4y ago

Why require RF at all? An attacker could give the drone a location they know their target will be at and let the drone autonomously guide itself to the target. [This dramatization][^1] focuses on full autonomy, but I'd argue it applies just as much to the steps leading up to it. All the more reason to take this threat seriously now. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw

kkfx 4y ago
Since the actual state of objects automatic recognition the drone might autonomously fly to a location, perhaps following shooting noise, but once arrived can't easy decide who to hit and can't hit anyone. At the same location drone itself is an easy target to shot down.