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> an employer to set health-related mandates It's funny you say that within the context of an airline. Where pilot and air staff's health is under extreme scru

by sofixa 4y ago

> an employer to set health-related mandates It's funny you say that within the context of an airline. Where pilot and air staff's health is under extreme scrutiny because they need to be in good condition, otherwise people could die when things go south. They probably enforce vaccines for yellow fever and similar for pilots flying to countries impacted to those diseases, why is it any different for COVID-19?

sokoloff 4y ago
KLM: “We will track that you have a valid 1st class medical as is required for airline transport operations.” VNV and everyone: “No problem!” KLM: “You also need this extra healthcare requirement that KLM is imposing.” VNV: “No. We’ll see you in court.” Airlines ensuring their flight crews are complying with federal laws and ICAO standards is great. Airlines setting their own medical standards differently is what I (and the pilots’ union) think is improper.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > Airlines ensuring their flight crews are complying with federal laws I think you're mistaking the country, KLM is a Dutch airline, and the Netherlands is not a federation. They're under EASA and ICAO regulations, on top of Dutch and (every country they operate in) regulations. > Airlines setting their own medical standards differently is what I (and the pilots’ union) think is improper. It's up to them to set those medical standards if they think they're needed. They probably have mental health standards too, considering the worst air disaster in terms of death toll was caused by a pilot of theirs forgetting he's not in a simulator with bad visibility and crashing his 747 into another 747. As has already been said, many countries require Covid vaccination for entry, including in the EU. Why would an airline not require their air staff to be vaccinated?
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    > It's up to them to set those medical standards if they think they're needed. The court disagreed in the case we’re discussing.

by sofixa 4y ago

sokoloff 4y ago

KLM: “We will track that you have a valid 1st class medical as is required for airline transport operations.” VNV and everyone: “No problem!” KLM: “You also need this extra healthcare requirement that KLM is imposing.” VNV: “No. We’ll see you in court.” Airlines ensuring their flight crews are complying with federal laws and ICAO standards is great. Airlines setting their own medical standards differently is what I (and the pilots’ union) think is improper.

sofixa 4y ago
> Airlines ensuring their flight crews are complying with federal laws I think you're mistaking the country, KLM is a Dutch airline, and the Netherlands is not a federation. They're under EASA and ICAO regulations, on top of Dutch and (every country they operate in) regulations. > Airlines setting their own medical standards differently is what I (and the pilots’ union) think is improper. It's up to them to set those medical standards if they think they're needed. They probably have mental health standards too, considering the worst air disaster in terms of death toll was caused by a pilot of theirs forgetting he's not in a simulator with bad visibility and crashing his 747 into another 747. As has already been said, many countries require Covid vaccination for entry, including in the EU. Why would an airline not require their air staff to be vaccinated?
- sokoloff 4y ago
  > It's up to them to set those medical standards if they think they're needed. The court disagreed in the case we’re discussing.