4 ms·

That sounds like an arms race that's both wasteful and difficult to win. Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? These corporations

That sounds like an arms race that's both wasteful and difficult to win. Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? These corporations are not out to get us. They maximize profit constrained by the regulatory environment. We have to guide them, and channel their capacity for good.

matheusmoreira 4y ago
> That sounds like an arms race that's both wasteful and difficult to win. It is. > Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? We should, if we can. I'm just not holding my breath. I think copyright should be abolished but the trillion dollar companies that depend on it will never allow that to happen. So we're better off de facto abolishing it by making copyright unenforceable and eliminating consequences for copyright infringement. I think advertising should be illegal but companies like Google will never let that happen. So I use software like uBlock Origin to block ads whenever I can.
- sbarre 4y ago
  >I think advertising should be illegal but companies like Google will never let that happen. So I use software like uBlock Origin to block ads whenever I can. Honest question (and I am not fan of advertising here and not trying to be an apologist).. What business model replaces it, in your mind? In the world that exists today, how do companies who provide free services online (including the creation of information) pay their staff and their operational costs, if not through being paid to display ads or sponsorships? Do all websites become subscriptions?
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    The replacement is not another business model
    - sbarre 4y ago
      Sure that's a nice thought.. Then reality comes knocking.
      - wahnfrieden 4y ago
        See capitalist realism
_jal 4y ago
> Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? Turns out that's also a Red Queen's race. And if you look at the lobbying costs vs. potential rewards, there's a lot of room for escalation in US politics.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

> That sounds like an arms race that's both wasteful and difficult to win. It is. > Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? We should, if we can. I'm just not holding my breath. I think copyright should be abolished but the trillion dollar companies that depend on it will never allow that to happen. So we're better off de facto abolishing it by making copyright unenforceable and eliminating consequences for copyright infringement. I think advertising should be illegal but companies like Google will never let that happen. So I use software like uBlock Origin to block ads whenever I can.

sbarre 4y ago
>I think advertising should be illegal but companies like Google will never let that happen. So I use software like uBlock Origin to block ads whenever I can. Honest question (and I am not fan of advertising here and not trying to be an apologist).. What business model replaces it, in your mind? In the world that exists today, how do companies who provide free services online (including the creation of information) pay their staff and their operational costs, if not through being paid to display ads or sponsorships? Do all websites become subscriptions?
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  The replacement is not another business model
  - sbarre 4y ago
    Sure that's a nice thought.. Then reality comes knocking.
    - wahnfrieden 4y ago
      See capitalist realism

_jal 4y ago

> Why should we not use the tools democracy provides to shape society? Turns out that's also a Red Queen's race. And if you look at the lobbying costs vs. potential rewards, there's a lot of room for escalation in US politics.