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Not that I am impressed with Elon or hold him high: But I don't think many people would be particularly eager to go from building an autonomous self driving EV

Not that I am impressed with Elon or hold him high: But I don't think many people would be particularly eager to go from building an autonomous self driving EV car to building an overhyped hyper-sold bug raising platform. Being centered in australia is a plus with it's laid back lifestyle but nothing else is a plus

YZF 4y ago
Not every software dev at Tesla works on self driving. Also would you want to work on something that'll never work? (I own a Tesla but I can't resist trolling here).
- metaphor 4y ago
  > Also would you want to work on something that'll never work? When the proposed alternative is a remote workflow with Jira and Confluence shoved down your throat as a matter of corporate dogfooding policy, I do wonder how much of this is the pot calling the kettle black.
- JPLeRouzic 4y ago
  > Why would you want to work on something that'll never work? "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. "
  - YZF 4y ago
    There's a difference between hard and feasible though. I love solving hard problems. I want to work on hard problems. I don't want to work on something that I don't believe is solvable. It's a prerequisite for me to intuitively believe something can be done. There was no feasibility question around going to the moon, it was all engineering.
    - JPLeRouzic 4y ago
      > There was no feasibility question around going to the moon, it was all engineering. At the time of Kennedy's discourse, the only US mission (Mercury-Redstone 3, or Freedom 7) was a 15-minute suborbital flight at 101.2 nautical miles high. I guess that in 50 years people will say that self-driving was "all engineering".
      - YZF 4y ago
        I doubt people will say general intelligence or fusion are "all engineering" in 50 years. We'll need some sort of breakthrough. There's the "weak" self driving we already have and there's the "strong" replace a human or outperform a human in any situation which is more like general intelligence. These are very different kinds of problems. I'm not well versed in the details of the space program but I doubt there were many "impossible" steps that required some fundamental scientific advancement. But hey, +1 to the optimism that we'll still be around in 50 years ;)
rsynnott 4y ago
Well, first of all, attempted self-driving stuff isn’t Tesla’s product; many of those people are working on the infotainment thing or the fart app or the website or whatever. But also, many, often most people in any large tech company don’t work directly on the product; they work on infrastructure.
- ShivShankaran 4y ago
  It doesn't matter. If i had to choose between working for Tesla for lower pay and coming to office vs remote Atlassian which is just jira shoved down corporate policies I am 100% going for Tesla and I am not a Tesla/Musk fan at all

YZF 4y ago

Not every software dev at Tesla works on self driving. Also would you want to work on something that'll never work? (I own a Tesla but I can't resist trolling here).

metaphor 4y ago
> Also would you want to work on something that'll never work? When the proposed alternative is a remote workflow with Jira and Confluence shoved down your throat as a matter of corporate dogfooding policy, I do wonder how much of this is the pot calling the kettle black.
JPLeRouzic 4y ago
> Why would you want to work on something that'll never work? "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. "
- YZF 4y ago
  There's a difference between hard and feasible though. I love solving hard problems. I want to work on hard problems. I don't want to work on something that I don't believe is solvable. It's a prerequisite for me to intuitively believe something can be done. There was no feasibility question around going to the moon, it was all engineering.
  - JPLeRouzic 4y ago
    > There was no feasibility question around going to the moon, it was all engineering. At the time of Kennedy's discourse, the only US mission (Mercury-Redstone 3, or Freedom 7) was a 15-minute suborbital flight at 101.2 nautical miles high. I guess that in 50 years people will say that self-driving was "all engineering".
    - YZF 4y ago
      I doubt people will say general intelligence or fusion are "all engineering" in 50 years. We'll need some sort of breakthrough. There's the "weak" self driving we already have and there's the "strong" replace a human or outperform a human in any situation which is more like general intelligence. These are very different kinds of problems. I'm not well versed in the details of the space program but I doubt there were many "impossible" steps that required some fundamental scientific advancement. But hey, +1 to the optimism that we'll still be around in 50 years ;)

rsynnott 4y ago

Well, first of all, attempted self-driving stuff isn’t Tesla’s product; many of those people are working on the infotainment thing or the fart app or the website or whatever. But also, many, often most people in any large tech company don’t work directly on the product; they work on infrastructure.

ShivShankaran 4y ago
It doesn't matter. If i had to choose between working for Tesla for lower pay and coming to office vs remote Atlassian which is just jira shoved down corporate policies I am 100% going for Tesla and I am not a Tesla/Musk fan at all