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You assume that surrendering is without a consequence to Ukrainians. When in fact we can expect pretty much Ukrainian genocide which was both declared by Putin
by attentive 4y ago
You assume that surrendering is without a consequence to Ukrainians. When in fact we can expect pretty much Ukrainian genocide which was both declared by Putin and can already be seen in occupied territories with executions, rapes, concentration camps, deportations, forbidding language etc.
When you have to defend yourself you defend yourself. Arguing otherwise is immoral.
Also, Ukraine loosing ensures russia attack other countries (using Ukrainians no less). That's why all the countries next in line are the most supporting Ukraine's defense i.e. Poland, Baltics, Sweden, Finland etc.
- civilized 4y agoNo wonder Ukrainians are so anti-Russia now. During this invasion, they and all their infrastructure have been made cannon fodder for Putin's ego. If they capitulate, they will be conscripted to be cannon fodder for Putin's ego again. This is the grim destiny of those who submit to Putin's self-styled resurgent Russian Empire.
- thriftwy 4y ago> already be seen in occupied territories with executions, rapes, concentration camps, deportations I hope you have heard that Ukrainian parliament had to fire Denisova, who was responsible for watching human right violations and was making claims out of thin air. A lot of western press quoted her fervently. So unknown part of these allegations is compromised. > forbidding language Say ukrainians, who are working in limiting Russian usage for 30 years already. If they were to surrender on day 3 they will get a puppet government (of ukrainians) and most of their country intact (no Crimea, but Donbass could be reintegrated). But that's mostly off the table now.