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Working on a car on grass is an environmental issue. Oil and coolant are toxic. Owning property lets you do a lot of things, but not everything i.e. making suc

Working on a car on grass is an environmental issue. Oil and coolant are toxic. Owning property lets you do a lot of things, but not everything i.e. making such a mess or danger that you affect your neighbors, like never cleaning up dog shit causing a fly problem, or making a neighborhood unseemly by turning a house into a junkyard. I’m sympathetic to the man, that’s a massive fine, but it seems self inflicted when he could have obeyed the ruling, and sued the city at his leisure, avoiding the penalty costs.

javajosh 4y ago
I wish the reporter had dug into a few more things: first, the impact on the neighbor. Did they just not like the look of it, or was there more? Second, what options he had to mitigate this. Was it the grass that was the problem, and could that have been mitigated by putting down some sort of fluid catching surface, could that have helped? My instinct is to support the old man who fixes things, but I'm cautious in coming to conclusions. He might have been doing real harm to his neighbor, or to the environment. He may have had reasonable outs and been stubborn and not taken them. We don't know enough, and I think that's a failure in journalism.
salawat 4y ago
Property owner fences in backyard: Check Property Owner maintains vehicles: check Property owner owns propane and and gas powered generator for tools, keeps them within back yard: Check Californian having an aneurysm because someone uses their personal space in a way they don't like or understand: Check The absurdity is strong with this one. Oil is only an issue when changing or leaking, and even then only the once. If you've changing it, or have leaks, use a pan. If he's not doing that, charge him with that. It's not like simply having a car on the grass emits a wave of environmental destruction? Stop harassing the man. And if they're citing people for fruit on the grass, I want to see citations for leaves in autumn, yard furniture, hoses, sprinklers, bicycles, children's toys, planter boxes, and landscaping materials. Y'all would probably have a fit over composting.
illuminerdy 4y ago
There's probably a middle ground where persons can be allowed to use their private property for businesses such as the one in this case, while still being subject to reasonable regulations that prevent environmental abuse and other such issues.

javajosh 4y ago

I wish the reporter had dug into a few more things: first, the impact on the neighbor. Did they just not like the look of it, or was there more? Second, what options he had to mitigate this. Was it the grass that was the problem, and could that have been mitigated by putting down some sort of fluid catching surface, could that have helped? My instinct is to support the old man who fixes things, but I'm cautious in coming to conclusions. He might have been doing real harm to his neighbor, or to the environment. He may have had reasonable outs and been stubborn and not taken them. We don't know enough, and I think that's a failure in journalism.

salawat 4y ago

Property owner fences in backyard: Check Property Owner maintains vehicles: check Property owner owns propane and and gas powered generator for tools, keeps them within back yard: Check Californian having an aneurysm because someone uses their personal space in a way they don't like or understand: Check The absurdity is strong with this one. Oil is only an issue when changing or leaking, and even then only the once. If you've changing it, or have leaks, use a pan. If he's not doing that, charge him with that. It's not like simply having a car on the grass emits a wave of environmental destruction? Stop harassing the man. And if they're citing people for fruit on the grass, I want to see citations for leaves in autumn, yard furniture, hoses, sprinklers, bicycles, children's toys, planter boxes, and landscaping materials. Y'all would probably have a fit over composting.

illuminerdy 4y ago

There's probably a middle ground where persons can be allowed to use their private property for businesses such as the one in this case, while still being subject to reasonable regulations that prevent environmental abuse and other such issues.