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Exists much closer parallel to Reichstag fire, when in 1993 Russian tanks shoot on Russian parliament. But as all Russian parallels, it is really farce, becaus

by simne 4y ago

Exists much closer parallel to Reichstag fire, when in 1993 Russian tanks shoot on Russian parliament. But as all Russian parallels, it is really farce, because those parliament was mostly communist and Nazi. And to be strict, because of this confrontation in Russian power, they have not invade Ukraine before 2014 - was too engaged on their internal problems.

trhway 4y ago
>Exists much closer parallel to Reichstag fire, when in 1993 Russian tanks shoot on Russian parliament. that one is different. The Reichstag fire was a terrorist like event. The 1993 Russia parliament shooting was an open confrontation between different political forces which controlled different government branches. > because of this confrontation in Russian power, they have not invade Ukraine before 2014 - was too engaged on their internal problems. not really. Russia didn't invaded Ukraine until 2014 because it had absolutely no enough power to do it. Any noticeable political confrontation that you point too ended by the early 200x. The economy was in pretty weak state until about 2008. Russia was flexing its muscles gradually - Chechnya, later Georgia and only after that it felt capable of attacking Ukraine. For example Russian forces even in 2008 were in pretty bad shape, and the campaign would have probably been a disaster if Georgia army was in any reasonable shape.
- simne 4y ago
  > The Reichstag fire was a terrorist like event ... > open confrontation between different political forces I'm not sure about such difference. As I remember, nsdap got few places in Reichstag, so it was legal political force, even considering it's littleness. And from experience of young democracies, there deputy usually have immunity. Fire-raising could being considered as just light offense, or even accident, not crime. BTW, command military to shoot on parliament is 100% terrorism, if not exists real threat for which need so much power. These things are easy seen from experience living under invasion. But I could suggest easy duck test for terrorism - it is crime, with political demand, nothing less. Crime appear, when clearly seen violence or murder, or large quantities of illegal drugs or other illegal substances (it depends on country and on exact drug, but approx, 10grams of heroine is crime, and 0.1g is not). Returning to Reichstag, after elections, there was three win parties - two communists and nsdap. Knowing communists, I don't think, they could prove violence, or fabricate other signs of crime, and other subjects was not interested in declare deputies crime, and conduct all need bureaucracy procedures, so we have light offense at most.
- simne 4y ago
  > not really. Russia didn't invaded Ukraine until 2014 because it had absolutely no enough power to do it Your data is outdated for about 90 days, on some things for more than 15 years. - Before February 24, we also think, that Russian army is second in world, etc. But now we have 100% reliable info from real war, that Russian army is in reality soviet army from 1960th, they have only few dozens prototypes of modern weapons, so this is not making much difference. And Russian army is extremely incompetent and demotivated. In reality, they accounted to behavior seen in Ukraine in early 1990s and partially in 2014 - all Ukrainian military just surrendered that time, because was order to surrender from president and top officers. Also in Ukraine exists very strong collaboration forces - daughter of Russian Orthodox church and communists party (after 2014 their deputies created few new parties, rebranded to not associate with prohibited communists symbols). For Russia circumstances was excellent in 1990th, but after 2004 each day they become weaker and Ukrainians become stronger. For example, before 2005, communists every year conduct processions in Kiev, but on 2005 they said, they have too few people (for street fights vs nationalists). For Ukrainian army, after 2014 it becomes extremely motivated and incorporate best modern practices - use drones for intelligence, and use starlink for communications, and use tablets with special software for control - for organization level this much superior to NATO and is like US army in late 1990th. Only problem still unresolved, that Russia have ~5 times more quantities of armored vehicles, artillery and air units; and Russia have large number of military ships and even submarines, but Ukraine have nearly zero size navy. Georgia is tiny country, approx TEN TIMES smaller than Ukraine, so it is miracle they have even moderate success in resistance.

by simne 4y ago

trhway 4y ago

>Exists much closer parallel to Reichstag fire, when in 1993 Russian tanks shoot on Russian parliament. that one is different. The Reichstag fire was a terrorist like event. The 1993 Russia parliament shooting was an open confrontation between different political forces which controlled different government branches. > because of this confrontation in Russian power, they have not invade Ukraine before 2014 - was too engaged on their internal problems. not really. Russia didn't invaded Ukraine until 2014 because it had absolutely no enough power to do it. Any noticeable political confrontation that you point too ended by the early 200x. The economy was in pretty weak state until about 2008. Russia was flexing its muscles gradually - Chechnya, later Georgia and only after that it felt capable of attacking Ukraine. For example Russian forces even in 2008 were in pretty bad shape, and the campaign would have probably been a disaster if Georgia army was in any reasonable shape.

simne 4y ago
> The Reichstag fire was a terrorist like event ... > open confrontation between different political forces I'm not sure about such difference. As I remember, nsdap got few places in Reichstag, so it was legal political force, even considering it's littleness. And from experience of young democracies, there deputy usually have immunity. Fire-raising could being considered as just light offense, or even accident, not crime. BTW, command military to shoot on parliament is 100% terrorism, if not exists real threat for which need so much power. These things are easy seen from experience living under invasion. But I could suggest easy duck test for terrorism - it is crime, with political demand, nothing less. Crime appear, when clearly seen violence or murder, or large quantities of illegal drugs or other illegal substances (it depends on country and on exact drug, but approx, 10grams of heroine is crime, and 0.1g is not). Returning to Reichstag, after elections, there was three win parties - two communists and nsdap. Knowing communists, I don't think, they could prove violence, or fabricate other signs of crime, and other subjects was not interested in declare deputies crime, and conduct all need bureaucracy procedures, so we have light offense at most.
simne 4y ago
> not really. Russia didn't invaded Ukraine until 2014 because it had absolutely no enough power to do it Your data is outdated for about 90 days, on some things for more than 15 years. - Before February 24, we also think, that Russian army is second in world, etc. But now we have 100% reliable info from real war, that Russian army is in reality soviet army from 1960th, they have only few dozens prototypes of modern weapons, so this is not making much difference. And Russian army is extremely incompetent and demotivated. In reality, they accounted to behavior seen in Ukraine in early 1990s and partially in 2014 - all Ukrainian military just surrendered that time, because was order to surrender from president and top officers. Also in Ukraine exists very strong collaboration forces - daughter of Russian Orthodox church and communists party (after 2014 their deputies created few new parties, rebranded to not associate with prohibited communists symbols). For Russia circumstances was excellent in 1990th, but after 2004 each day they become weaker and Ukrainians become stronger. For example, before 2005, communists every year conduct processions in Kiev, but on 2005 they said, they have too few people (for street fights vs nationalists). For Ukrainian army, after 2014 it becomes extremely motivated and incorporate best modern practices - use drones for intelligence, and use starlink for communications, and use tablets with special software for control - for organization level this much superior to NATO and is like US army in late 1990th. Only problem still unresolved, that Russia have ~5 times more quantities of armored vehicles, artillery and air units; and Russia have large number of military ships and even submarines, but Ukraine have nearly zero size navy. Georgia is tiny country, approx TEN TIMES smaller than Ukraine, so it is miracle they have even moderate success in resistance.