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> the fact that you no longer need a third party to mediate interactions between individual users on the internet. Could you explain this more? Like how you

> the fact that you no longer need a third party to mediate interactions between individual users on the internet. Could you explain this more? Like how you no longer need your ISP, or the blockchain systems run by third parties? It seems to me like just playing semantic games if the third party is supposedly no longer a third party if it's distributed. Maybe I missed something concrete about "web3"'s promises?

omginternets 4y ago
You’re thinking of blockchains, but I’m thinking more broadly of p2p systems. But even blockchains have the potential to satisfy the ideal that I have in mind. For example, I’ve often thought web2 SSO (sign in with Google/Facebook/etc) to be ripe for disruption by some open standard for wallet based authentication. I think I’ve even seen a few projects that come close to this. At any rate, this is the part I find interesting. The money games are a huge distraction IMHO. I have quite a few disorganized thoughts on the subject… maybe I should write an essay…
- knorker 4y ago
  More broadly that sounds more like web1, not web3. For sign in there are distributed ways. SQRL by Steve Gibson is one, that is just first and second party. No third party needed, distributed or not. But really, any public key system, like gpg web of trust would do it. You could even do mTLS, with self-signed certs. Or build an identity tree with signed certs. Like all things Blockchain there's always the open question to any solution of "but why not just do it without the Blockchain, and it'll be better faster stronger?". Indeed i see many stories of solutions where they ended up just removing the Blockchain in the end, with no loss of functionality. If you write up your thoughts then please look at non-blockchain alternatives. Like why is a gpg key not identity, or not good enough, but a Blockchain solution would be?

omginternets 4y ago

You’re thinking of blockchains, but I’m thinking more broadly of p2p systems. But even blockchains have the potential to satisfy the ideal that I have in mind. For example, I’ve often thought web2 SSO (sign in with Google/Facebook/etc) to be ripe for disruption by some open standard for wallet based authentication. I think I’ve even seen a few projects that come close to this. At any rate, this is the part I find interesting. The money games are a huge distraction IMHO. I have quite a few disorganized thoughts on the subject… maybe I should write an essay…

knorker 4y ago
More broadly that sounds more like web1, not web3. For sign in there are distributed ways. SQRL by Steve Gibson is one, that is just first and second party. No third party needed, distributed or not. But really, any public key system, like gpg web of trust would do it. You could even do mTLS, with self-signed certs. Or build an identity tree with signed certs. Like all things Blockchain there's always the open question to any solution of "but why not just do it without the Blockchain, and it'll be better faster stronger?". Indeed i see many stories of solutions where they ended up just removing the Blockchain in the end, with no loss of functionality. If you write up your thoughts then please look at non-blockchain alternatives. Like why is a gpg key not identity, or not good enough, but a Blockchain solution would be?