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> I never filed yearly accounts for the UG so afr, the first two years you don't have to. Could you provide a source for this claim? In a best-case scenario,

> I never filed yearly accounts for the UG so afr, the first two years you don't have to. Could you provide a source for this claim? In a best-case scenario, where you have founded your company on Jan 1 2021, you so far would have still had to - hand in your initial balance sheet at the time of founding - hand in your Umsatzsteuervoranmeldung every month. Moreover, you will definitely have to - hand in your Umsatzsteuererklärung, Körperschaftsteuererklärung, Gewerbesteuererklärung (all for 2021) by 31.07.2022 - send your "electronic tax balance sheet" (Elektronische Steuerbilanz / eBilanz) for 2021 to the tax authorities by 31.07.22 - set up your balance sheet for 2021 by 31.06.22 and send it to Bundesanzeiger by 31.12.22

hef19898 4y ago
Well, no initial balance sheet required. Taxes are filed, of course. VAT had to be decleared, in theory, every month. You get reminders, so it can also be done for multiple months. Now, due to lack of revenue, I have to file a zero VAT declaration quarterly. And your deadlines are longer than if you eork with a registered tax advisor. That's why I said so far, I'll have to do all that this year, the 2021 balance sheet is due in 2023, no need to publish the latest in the Bundesanzeiger anyway. After all, that's par of the course of doing proper business, and cost of doing business.
- codethief 4y ago
  > Well, no initial balance sheet required The law very clearly disagrees with you: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/hgb/__242.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/hgb/__242.html > And your deadlines are longer than if you eork with a registered tax advisor. True. If you're paying a tax advisor, you don't really care about the deadlines and all the paperwork, anyway, though. You just pay people to do all that for you.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    I had two companies, GmbH (no merged and disolved) and a dormant UG. Never filed an initial balance sheet for either.
    - codethief 4y ago
      That's interesting. Tax authorities (in NRW) very explicitly asked me for one a few months after I had incorporated.
      - hef19898 4y ago
        I'm in Bavaria, and to the best of my recolection I never filed one. But then it was a cash-only incorporation, and honestly I don't remember all the files and formulars I filled and signed. Maybe there are exceptions to this under certain circumstances...

hef19898 4y ago

Well, no initial balance sheet required. Taxes are filed, of course. VAT had to be decleared, in theory, every month. You get reminders, so it can also be done for multiple months. Now, due to lack of revenue, I have to file a zero VAT declaration quarterly. And your deadlines are longer than if you eork with a registered tax advisor. That's why I said so far, I'll have to do all that this year, the 2021 balance sheet is due in 2023, no need to publish the latest in the Bundesanzeiger anyway. After all, that's par of the course of doing proper business, and cost of doing business.

codethief 4y ago
> Well, no initial balance sheet required The law very clearly disagrees with you: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/hgb/__242.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/hgb/__242.html > And your deadlines are longer than if you eork with a registered tax advisor. True. If you're paying a tax advisor, you don't really care about the deadlines and all the paperwork, anyway, though. You just pay people to do all that for you.
- hef19898 4y ago
  I had two companies, GmbH (no merged and disolved) and a dormant UG. Never filed an initial balance sheet for either.
  - codethief 4y ago
    That's interesting. Tax authorities (in NRW) very explicitly asked me for one a few months after I had incorporated.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      I'm in Bavaria, and to the best of my recolection I never filed one. But then it was a cash-only incorporation, and honestly I don't remember all the files and formulars I filled and signed. Maybe there are exceptions to this under certain circumstances...