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No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie. It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army. Sev

No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie. It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army. Several of your comments here are regurgitations of Kremlin propaganda. Please stop spreading misinformation.

unmole 4y ago
> No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie. > It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army. This is a bizzare distinction to emphasize. The National Guard is an armed unit. During war, their role is exactly the same as the armed forces.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
  I think it’s worth pointing out inaccuracies like this when they are shared by someone who is clearly engaging in whataboutery and the spread of misinformation across several comments in this thread.
  - unmole 4y ago
    I really don't think that's productive. Nitpicking like this only makes it seem like the argument is mostly correct except for minor details.
  - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
    Is it really whataboutery if we're not any better than the russians.... and meanwhile destroying our own economies while not really hurting russia that much?
    - simonh 4y ago
      The Russians have been shown to have slaughtered civilians, indiscriminately bombed and shelled residential areas, looted, raped and abducted people on massive scale. What do you mean by ‘not any better than the Russians’? What has Azov or anyone else in Ukraine been doing that rises the the same level? Russia has been promoting and funding racist and white supremacist groups just as bad all over Europe. The only thing about Azov that’s different is they are anti Russian. I know Azov are an unpleasant lot and have distributed hate propaganda and harassed people, but as part of the national guard they are under military command and discipline. Furthermore politically speaking they were utterly insignificant and got absolutely nowhere in elections. The whole ‘fighting nazis’ line is utter garbage.

unmole 4y ago

> No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie. > It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army. This is a bizzare distinction to emphasize. The National Guard is an armed unit. During war, their role is exactly the same as the armed forces.

yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
I think it’s worth pointing out inaccuracies like this when they are shared by someone who is clearly engaging in whataboutery and the spread of misinformation across several comments in this thread.
- unmole 4y ago
  I really don't think that's productive. Nitpicking like this only makes it seem like the argument is mostly correct except for minor details.
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  Is it really whataboutery if we're not any better than the russians.... and meanwhile destroying our own economies while not really hurting russia that much?
  - simonh 4y ago
    The Russians have been shown to have slaughtered civilians, indiscriminately bombed and shelled residential areas, looted, raped and abducted people on massive scale. What do you mean by ‘not any better than the Russians’? What has Azov or anyone else in Ukraine been doing that rises the the same level? Russia has been promoting and funding racist and white supremacist groups just as bad all over Europe. The only thing about Azov that’s different is they are anti Russian. I know Azov are an unpleasant lot and have distributed hate propaganda and harassed people, but as part of the national guard they are under military command and discipline. Furthermore politically speaking they were utterly insignificant and got absolutely nowhere in elections. The whole ‘fighting nazis’ line is utter garbage.