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Amazing. Nothing you just said was true.

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0daystock 4y ago
You're more than welcome to disprove any of it using facts and citations. Edit: since my original comment was censored, I'll add context here - it was suggesting increased gasoline engine degradation resulting from altered fuel mixtures.
- belltaco 4y ago
  >You're more than welcome to disprove any of it using facts and citations Here's a citation for you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor#cite_note-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor#cite_note-1
  - 0daystock 4y ago
    That gasoline engines are degraded by ethanol is not a controversial fact, and one that is easily verified by a modicum of research effort.
    - drewcon 4y ago
      Super. Now prove it’s a conspiracy to sell EVs.
      - 0daystock 4y ago
        You're trapped in Plato's cave, my dude. Turn around and just look.
netr0ute 4y ago
Citations?
- WalterGR 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
  - netr0ute 4y ago
    Tough, because you can reframe it as "can you prove that this is actually fictional"
    - WalterGR 4y ago
      No you can't. Well, you can try, but it's a rhetorical technique used only by people who can't support their claims, and does not meet the burden of proof. The person who makes the claim initially has the burden of proof. Your proposed technique is discussed in the Wikipedia article in the section "Shifting the burden of proof".
sokoloff 4y ago
“Water down the fuel” is pretty close to true and, at a minimum, more true than false. The energy per gallon of ethanol is around 2/3 that of gasoline, so the more ethanol you mix into a gallon of auto fuel sold at retail, the more “watered down” that fuel is. Ethanol is also hygroscopic and the resulting blended fuel is nowhere near as shelf/tank stable as a pure gasoline fuel, resulting in more service/repairs. (I have to change/clean carbs on my lawn mower/snow blower at least every other season if I leave any ethanol mixed fuel in it. That sometimes, but much more rarely, happens with pure gasoline, even E0 regular auto fuel.)

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You're more than welcome to disprove any of it using facts and citations. Edit: since my original comment was censored, I'll add context here - it was suggesting increased gasoline engine degradation resulting from altered fuel mixtures.

belltaco 4y ago
>You're more than welcome to disprove any of it using facts and citations Here's a citation for you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor#cite_note-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor#cite_note-1
- 0daystock 4y ago
  That gasoline engines are degraded by ethanol is not a controversial fact, and one that is easily verified by a modicum of research effort.
  - drewcon 4y ago
    Super. Now prove it’s a conspiracy to sell EVs.
    - 0daystock 4y ago
      You're trapped in Plato's cave, my dude. Turn around and just look.

netr0ute 4y ago

Citations?

WalterGR 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
- netr0ute 4y ago
  Tough, because you can reframe it as "can you prove that this is actually fictional"
  - WalterGR 4y ago
    No you can't. Well, you can try, but it's a rhetorical technique used only by people who can't support their claims, and does not meet the burden of proof. The person who makes the claim initially has the burden of proof. Your proposed technique is discussed in the Wikipedia article in the section "Shifting the burden of proof".

sokoloff 4y ago

“Water down the fuel” is pretty close to true and, at a minimum, more true than false. The energy per gallon of ethanol is around 2/3 that of gasoline, so the more ethanol you mix into a gallon of auto fuel sold at retail, the more “watered down” that fuel is. Ethanol is also hygroscopic and the resulting blended fuel is nowhere near as shelf/tank stable as a pure gasoline fuel, resulting in more service/repairs. (I have to change/clean carbs on my lawn mower/snow blower at least every other season if I leave any ethanol mixed fuel in it. That sometimes, but much more rarely, happens with pure gasoline, even E0 regular auto fuel.)