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> Besides, I'm not sure US (specifically) democracy is much better than Chinese system. See also: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country h

> Besides, I'm not sure US (specifically) democracy is much better than Chinese system. See also: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World#Country_rankings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World#Country_r... > The average Chinese citizen is probably as content as the average American citizen. Ask the minorities how they're treated in each (or in any country really).

capableweb 4y ago
> The Democracy Index is an index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research division of the Economist Group, a UK-based private company which publishes the weekly newspaper The Economist > Freedom in the World is a yearly survey and report by the U.S.-based[2] non-governmental organization Freedom House I'm not saying their data is wrong, but as always when it comes to data, it'd be great to have resources/data to read/interpret coming from "the other side" as well. What do Asia-based/China-based organizations say about "democracy" and "freedom" in the US and Europe? Would they agree with the assessment from their US/Europe-based equivalents?
- throw0101a 4y ago
  > What do Asia-based/China-based organizations say about "democracy" and "freedom" in the US and Europe? Would they agree with the assessment from their US/Europe-based equivalents? Of course the score depends on the what is measured and the metrics. But an interesting yet simple 'practical metric' is/could be: from which countries are people emigrating from, and to which are they immigrating to (or wish to immigrate to, if there were fewer restrictions). Where do people see that they can 'have a future' for themselves and possibly for their children?
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
The Democracy Index is an index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research division of the Economist Group, a UK-based private company which publishes the weekly newspaper The Economist. not the best of sources. Anyway the minority issues aren't worse in China than on US in my opinion. If we think of women rights and children rights, they are worse in US than China, kids get shot in school over the right to own arms, women are stripped of the right to control their bodies over political vengeance from a former, bitter, undemocratic president.
- throw0101a 4y ago
  > If we think of women rights and children rights, they are worse in US than China, kids get shot in school over the right to own arms […] Which seems to be why the US ranks so low in the 'Freedom Index': if you look at the "Safety and Security" metric is is ridiculously bad.

capableweb 4y ago

> The Democracy Index is an index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research division of the Economist Group, a UK-based private company which publishes the weekly newspaper The Economist > Freedom in the World is a yearly survey and report by the U.S.-based[2] non-governmental organization Freedom House I'm not saying their data is wrong, but as always when it comes to data, it'd be great to have resources/data to read/interpret coming from "the other side" as well. What do Asia-based/China-based organizations say about "democracy" and "freedom" in the US and Europe? Would they agree with the assessment from their US/Europe-based equivalents?

throw0101a 4y ago
> What do Asia-based/China-based organizations say about "democracy" and "freedom" in the US and Europe? Would they agree with the assessment from their US/Europe-based equivalents? Of course the score depends on the what is measured and the metrics. But an interesting yet simple 'practical metric' is/could be: from which countries are people emigrating from, and to which are they immigrating to (or wish to immigrate to, if there were fewer restrictions). Where do people see that they can 'have a future' for themselves and possibly for their children?

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

The Democracy Index is an index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research division of the Economist Group, a UK-based private company which publishes the weekly newspaper The Economist. not the best of sources. Anyway the minority issues aren't worse in China than on US in my opinion. If we think of women rights and children rights, they are worse in US than China, kids get shot in school over the right to own arms, women are stripped of the right to control their bodies over political vengeance from a former, bitter, undemocratic president.

throw0101a 4y ago
> If we think of women rights and children rights, they are worse in US than China, kids get shot in school over the right to own arms […] Which seems to be why the US ranks so low in the 'Freedom Index': if you look at the "Safety and Security" metric is is ridiculously bad.