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Chinese people are happy to trade their privacy and freedoms if it means guaranteed prosperity and security. As long as they and their children are certain to g

Chinese people are happy to trade their privacy and freedoms if it means guaranteed prosperity and security. As long as they and their children are certain to get a job that pays for basic life and a few amenities for them and their family they don't care. One of the problems the CCP is facing is that the moment a regression comes and this security is not guaranteed the people supposedly will stop accepting the compromise

throw0101c 4y ago
> Chinese people are happy to trade their privacy and freedoms if it means guaranteed prosperity and security. One historical observation that was published a few years ago: > It must be understood that liberalism and nationalism developed in China in lockstep, with one, in a sense, serving as means to the other. That is, liberalism was a means to serve national ends — the wealth and power of the country. And so when means and end came into conflict, as they inevitably did, the end won out. Nationalism trumped liberalism. Unity, sovereignty, and the means to preserve both were ultimately more important even to those who espoused republicanism and the franchise. > China’s betrayal at Versailles did not help the cause of liberalism in China. After all, it was the standard bearers of liberalism — the U.K., France, and the United States — that had negotiated secret treaties to give Shandong to the Japanese. > Former liberals gravitated toward two main camps, both overtly Leninist in organization, both unapologetically authoritarian: the Nationalists and the Communists. By the mid-1920s, the overwhelming majority of Chinese intellectuals believed that an authoritarian solution was China’s only recourse. * https://supchina.com/2019/07/22/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-government/ https://supchina.com/2019/07/22/why-do-chinese-people-like-t... * https://kottke.org/19/08/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-government https://kottke.org/19/08/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-go... (via)

throw0101c 4y ago

> Chinese people are happy to trade their privacy and freedoms if it means guaranteed prosperity and security. One historical observation that was published a few years ago: > It must be understood that liberalism and nationalism developed in China in lockstep, with one, in a sense, serving as means to the other. That is, liberalism was a means to serve national ends — the wealth and power of the country. And so when means and end came into conflict, as they inevitably did, the end won out. Nationalism trumped liberalism. Unity, sovereignty, and the means to preserve both were ultimately more important even to those who espoused republicanism and the franchise. > China’s betrayal at Versailles did not help the cause of liberalism in China. After all, it was the standard bearers of liberalism — the U.K., France, and the United States — that had negotiated secret treaties to give Shandong to the Japanese. > Former liberals gravitated toward two main camps, both overtly Leninist in organization, both unapologetically authoritarian: the Nationalists and the Communists. By the mid-1920s, the overwhelming majority of Chinese intellectuals believed that an authoritarian solution was China’s only recourse. * https://supchina.com/2019/07/22/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-government/ https://supchina.com/2019/07/22/why-do-chinese-people-like-t... * https://kottke.org/19/08/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-government https://kottke.org/19/08/why-do-chinese-people-like-their-go... (via)