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> Grapperhaus wanted to prevent the distribution of photos of the sexual abuse of children Ah yes, the "think about the children" narrative again. This argume

> Grapperhaus wanted to prevent the distribution of photos of the sexual abuse of children Ah yes, the "think about the children" narrative again. This argument is as valid as banning knives because some percentage of knife owners commit crimes with them. I'm really getting tired of this and hope larger groups of population start seeing through this bullshit.

IYasha 4y ago
I heard a joke "Let's ban all men, because they have dicks which make them potential rapists" ) The only thing that makes original narrative not so absurdly ridiculous is the fact that "they" have the resources to execute a few example cases (of abuse, abduction, shootings, etc. etc.) to justify any restrictions. (
blenderdt 4y ago
This is no bullshit, it's about feeling powerless. Grapperhouse saw how hard it is to track down child abusers. He was touched by it and he wanted to fix this. The best solution to track down child abusers fast is to track down their communications. But I agree with you this might not be the best solution for the rest of the world.
- rglullis 4y ago
  > The best solution to track down child abusers fast is to track down their communications. Right. Then as bad actors find out that WhatsApp is backdoored, they move on to some other network, the police agents go on to think "oh, cool, no more abusers on WhatsApp, good job!", leaving the backdoor only for the good people and a bunch of police agents thinking "Now that CP is no longer a threat, what else are we going to use as a reason to keep these powers we have"?
  - forum_ghost 4y ago
    I'd be very surprised any serious criminals use anything from webstores in the first place. maybe some low level foot soldiers at most.
  - blenderdt 4y ago
    Of course that will happen. The problem is people like Grapperhouse lack creativity. When they feel powerless they can't think of other solutions than the obvious.
- engineeringwoke 4y ago
  Grapperhaus is a power-grabbing asshole, in broad daylight since the Helsema texts debacle. He doesn't give a fuck about kids. Sommige Nederlandse mensen geloven dit? Ik weet het niet hoor.
- j3th9n 4y ago
  Meanwhile Grapperhaus didn't want to appoint an independent team of researchers to investigate child sex abuse in connection with members of his own justice department.

IYasha 4y ago

I heard a joke "Let's ban all men, because they have dicks which make them potential rapists" ) The only thing that makes original narrative not so absurdly ridiculous is the fact that "they" have the resources to execute a few example cases (of abuse, abduction, shootings, etc. etc.) to justify any restrictions. (

blenderdt 4y ago

This is no bullshit, it's about feeling powerless. Grapperhouse saw how hard it is to track down child abusers. He was touched by it and he wanted to fix this. The best solution to track down child abusers fast is to track down their communications. But I agree with you this might not be the best solution for the rest of the world.

rglullis 4y ago
> The best solution to track down child abusers fast is to track down their communications. Right. Then as bad actors find out that WhatsApp is backdoored, they move on to some other network, the police agents go on to think "oh, cool, no more abusers on WhatsApp, good job!", leaving the backdoor only for the good people and a bunch of police agents thinking "Now that CP is no longer a threat, what else are we going to use as a reason to keep these powers we have"?
- forum_ghost 4y ago
  I'd be very surprised any serious criminals use anything from webstores in the first place. maybe some low level foot soldiers at most.
- blenderdt 4y ago
  Of course that will happen. The problem is people like Grapperhouse lack creativity. When they feel powerless they can't think of other solutions than the obvious.
engineeringwoke 4y ago
Grapperhaus is a power-grabbing asshole, in broad daylight since the Helsema texts debacle. He doesn't give a fuck about kids. Sommige Nederlandse mensen geloven dit? Ik weet het niet hoor.
j3th9n 4y ago
Meanwhile Grapperhaus didn't want to appoint an independent team of researchers to investigate child sex abuse in connection with members of his own justice department.