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A concise explanation: functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Hard to advertise in a functional list grid, but yeah li

A concise explanation: functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Hard to advertise in a functional list grid, but yeah like fuck, I’m right there with you. It’s to the point where I’d rather just steal the album off of YouTube. At least there’s an ad-blocker.

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xoac 4y ago
Please don't steal off of YouTube, there are better places.
- raydiatian 4y ago
  Suggestions?
  - lukyanovic 4y ago
    You could try SoulSeek, it's the best resource for music nowadays.
    - imbnwa 4y ago
      Has been for 20 years IMHO
  - criddell 4y ago
    Buy music at a store?
    - xoac 4y ago
      Listen I am 100% with you and buy a lot from bandcamp, but "stealing off of youtube" is just sad
  - teddyh 4y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/music https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/music
Nextgrid 4y ago
The problem I see is that the "attention economy"'s end goal is still to be a marketing platform for real, paid products. It won't work in a world where there are no products and everything is an advertising platform - people won't be paying for the "privilege" of seeing ads. The market has been distorted by VCs and investors who are willing to throw shit tons of money towards anything that "grows" and generates engagement. This pulled the ground out of the model of making products that people pay for - you would make money money (off investors) if you just give away your product than if you make people pay for it. That's how we ended up in the current situation, and there are tons of vested interests (people's entire careers are built on this) in perpetuating the problem even if the system can't ever be sustainable. The music has to stop at some point though when everything is saturated by advertising. That appears to be now given the current, massive downturn. Investor money is no longer free or easy to come by, so the pendulum will have to swing back to making products funded by its end-customers.
- DarylZero 4y ago
  > a world where there are no products and everything is an advertising platform Maybe the advertised products will all be opportunities to make money. Occasionally job listings, mostly crypto coins.
- honkler 4y ago
  read the book "subprime attention crisis"
  - raydiatian 4y ago
    I will give Spotify UX one thing: the mobile version has a great feature where if I just double click the tab menu button that opens up search, it shoots me straight into my keyboard. That needs to be standard.
jarek83 4y ago
functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Sure, but can't they make the functional layout version optional?
matheusmoreira 4y ago
Advertising ruins everything. No exceptions. In Spotify's case it's an even bigger insult since people are paying for the privilege of being advertised to.

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xoac 4y ago

Please don't steal off of YouTube, there are better places.

raydiatian 4y ago
Suggestions?
- lukyanovic 4y ago
  You could try SoulSeek, it's the best resource for music nowadays.
  - imbnwa 4y ago
    Has been for 20 years IMHO
- criddell 4y ago
  Buy music at a store?
  - xoac 4y ago
    Listen I am 100% with you and buy a lot from bandcamp, but "stealing off of youtube" is just sad
- teddyh 4y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/music https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/music

Nextgrid 4y ago

The problem I see is that the "attention economy"'s end goal is still to be a marketing platform for real, paid products. It won't work in a world where there are no products and everything is an advertising platform - people won't be paying for the "privilege" of seeing ads. The market has been distorted by VCs and investors who are willing to throw shit tons of money towards anything that "grows" and generates engagement. This pulled the ground out of the model of making products that people pay for - you would make money money (off investors) if you just give away your product than if you make people pay for it. That's how we ended up in the current situation, and there are tons of vested interests (people's entire careers are built on this) in perpetuating the problem even if the system can't ever be sustainable. The music has to stop at some point though when everything is saturated by advertising. That appears to be now given the current, massive downturn. Investor money is no longer free or easy to come by, so the pendulum will have to swing back to making products funded by its end-customers.

DarylZero 4y ago
> a world where there are no products and everything is an advertising platform Maybe the advertised products will all be opportunities to make money. Occasionally job listings, mostly crypto coins.
honkler 4y ago
read the book "subprime attention crisis"
- raydiatian 4y ago
  I will give Spotify UX one thing: the mobile version has a great feature where if I just double click the tab menu button that opens up search, it shoots me straight into my keyboard. That needs to be standard.

jarek83 4y ago

functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Sure, but can't they make the functional layout version optional?

matheusmoreira 4y ago

Advertising ruins everything. No exceptions. In Spotify's case it's an even bigger insult since people are paying for the privilege of being advertised to.