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>I hustled for many years, and I was able to buy my first Mercedes last year. Boy oh boy! Maybe if I work my little fingers hard enough, someday I can be on t

by blhack 15y ago

>I hustled for many years, and I was able to buy my first Mercedes last year. Boy oh boy! Maybe if I work my little fingers hard enough, someday I can be on that level! /sorry for the snark, maybe it's the weather, or maybe it's the condescending tone of your post -- I sincerely hope that I never look at hacking as a form of "hustling"

getsat 15y ago
My post wasn't condescending at all. I was just pointing out that instead of the typical reactions to affluence (jealousy, anger, etc.), you should admire it and strive to attain it while furthering your own skills and bettering yourself. Most of my hustle has been in the form of serious hacking/side projects.
- blhack 15y ago
  Your post is condescending because it assumes that mine is rooted in jealousy or anger, or that your version of affluence is something that haven't already attained.
  - getsat 15y ago
    Sorry. I should have said "one" not "you", and "one's self" instead of "yourself". Most people seem to get angry/jealous when they see affluence instead of having a more pragmatic reaction. My version of affluence is being in the top 1% that the 99% hates. I'm not quite there yet. :)
    - blhack 15y ago
      Okay, not to talk down to you, but something that you'll eventually learn is that the really "affluent" people will rarely ever tell you, and they'll never say something about helping you get to their level unless you ask them. The "maybe you should learn to hustle and someday you can be like me!" thing comes from lack of self-confidence; the term for this has historically been "nouveau riche". I've linked this many times, but read it: http://lesswrong.com/lw/154/why_real_men_wear_pink/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/154/why_real_men_wear_pink/ If you're talking about automobiles as a social signaling mechanism, "real men drive Audis." Not to be an outright prick here, but "learn to hustle like me, [plebian]" definitely doesn't come across as affluent. And if we're talking about automobiles, the two wealthiest people I know drive cars that cost them less than $20,000. One is a founder of a company that you use every day but might not have heard of, the other is the CEO of a company you definitely use every day, and have definitely heard of.
      - getsat 15y ago
        Sorry you feel I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I'm neither in a position to nor is it something I actually do. My suggestion was that outrage is not the correct response to affluence; admiration is. Driving a $100,000 car is not unreasonable. I don't lack self confidence, I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. I'm not rich, but I will be some day because I have the attitude and the hustle. Sorry for the misunderstanding. If I wanted to be condescending initially, I would have replied with a more 4chan-esque "cry more, poorfag" or something along those lines.
        blhack 15y ago
        >I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. Have you ever asked them if they think this comes across as condescending of you? As far as you lacking self confidence. Maybe not, but to "affluent" people, that's how it looks. You don't have to apologize, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything, I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it. Keep at it, and eventually you'll get the self-confidence you need to not make stupid remarks about cars. (See how that sounds? Condescending, eh?)
        getsat 15y ago
        How would encouraging people in their personal and business pursuits ever be condescending? It doesn't imply inferiority. > I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending.
        blhack 15y ago
        Because you're doing so under the assumption that your lifestyle is something that other people would desire. >This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending. That's the point.

by blhack 15y ago

getsat 15y ago

My post wasn't condescending at all. I was just pointing out that instead of the typical reactions to affluence (jealousy, anger, etc.), you should admire it and strive to attain it while furthering your own skills and bettering yourself. Most of my hustle has been in the form of serious hacking/side projects.

blhack 15y ago
Your post is condescending because it assumes that mine is rooted in jealousy or anger, or that your version of affluence is something that haven't already attained.
- getsat 15y ago
  Sorry. I should have said "one" not "you", and "one's self" instead of "yourself". Most people seem to get angry/jealous when they see affluence instead of having a more pragmatic reaction. My version of affluence is being in the top 1% that the 99% hates. I'm not quite there yet. :)
  - blhack 15y ago
    Okay, not to talk down to you, but something that you'll eventually learn is that the really "affluent" people will rarely ever tell you, and they'll never say something about helping you get to their level unless you ask them. The "maybe you should learn to hustle and someday you can be like me!" thing comes from lack of self-confidence; the term for this has historically been "nouveau riche". I've linked this many times, but read it: http://lesswrong.com/lw/154/why_real_men_wear_pink/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/154/why_real_men_wear_pink/ If you're talking about automobiles as a social signaling mechanism, "real men drive Audis." Not to be an outright prick here, but "learn to hustle like me, [plebian]" definitely doesn't come across as affluent. And if we're talking about automobiles, the two wealthiest people I know drive cars that cost them less than $20,000. One is a founder of a company that you use every day but might not have heard of, the other is the CEO of a company you definitely use every day, and have definitely heard of.
    - getsat 15y ago
      Sorry you feel I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I'm neither in a position to nor is it something I actually do. My suggestion was that outrage is not the correct response to affluence; admiration is. Driving a $100,000 car is not unreasonable. I don't lack self confidence, I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. I'm not rich, but I will be some day because I have the attitude and the hustle. Sorry for the misunderstanding. If I wanted to be condescending initially, I would have replied with a more 4chan-esque "cry more, poorfag" or something along those lines.
      - blhack 15y ago
        >I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. Have you ever asked them if they think this comes across as condescending of you? As far as you lacking self confidence. Maybe not, but to "affluent" people, that's how it looks. You don't have to apologize, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything, I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it. Keep at it, and eventually you'll get the self-confidence you need to not make stupid remarks about cars. (See how that sounds? Condescending, eh?)
        getsat 15y ago
        How would encouraging people in their personal and business pursuits ever be condescending? It doesn't imply inferiority. > I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending.
        blhack 15y ago
        Because you're doing so under the assumption that your lifestyle is something that other people would desire. >This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending. That's the point.