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No. People have been bellyaching about technology replacing humans literally through all of history. Computers, automation, industrial revolution, what have you

No. People have been bellyaching about technology replacing humans literally through all of history. Computers, automation, industrial revolution, what have you. Hunter gatherers were probably complaining about how agriculture was going to make people obsolete too. You can certainly reject whatever you want but don't fool yourself into thinking you're accomplishing anything.

vinaypai 4y ago
PS: They have also been saying “the last n-1 times we were wrong, but this time is different".
- azinman2 4y ago
  There is ample reason to believe this time is different, but almost certainly in ways that aren’t predicted right now.
  - vinaypai 4y ago
    Yup, just like all the other times.
NO-AI 4y ago
For example, if we as a society refuse to use self-driving cars, we can make the industry unprofitable. Society says, "No, this is not the kind of product we want" and capitalism works to starve the harmful industry.
- vinaypai 4y ago
  You're pretending that everyone, or even a large subset of people agree with your central premise. The replies on this thread ought to disabuse you of that notion. I, for one, can't wait for self-driving cars to replace the average moron driving multi-ton vehicles around.
  - NO-AI 4y ago
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- shreyshnaccount 4y ago
  Except we as a society can't do crap. If we could, we mightve fixed global warming and emissions by your logic.
dr_kiszonka 4y ago
We just need to start developing politicians-replacing AI to see swift legislative action to regulate any and all AI research.
rvz 4y ago
Unfortunately, I have to agree with what you have just said there. It's going to end with co-existence with this AI technology. We have seen these sort of movements before and there is definitely a pattern: Free-software movement: Calls to reject all close-source software were made by the free-software movement, but once again such software still exists in a worse form (web apps) and 'open-source' has become a corporate buzzword. Cyberpunk-Privacy movement: The same thing happened with the free-software movement where many large companies and others tracking you with their closed-source software can afford the fines and still don't care about your 'privacy' which they also use that as a buzzword. Anti-IoT movement: After that, it that lead to the rise of another buzzword 'Internet of Things' (IoT) that was fought against by the same techies and was lost since many IoT devices are still existing and built by the same companies tracking you with that closed software and tracking information. Current anti-AI movement: AI is another buzzword sung by the tech industry, such that companies like OpenAI became closed and diverted from their goals and others implemented their own GPT, DALL-E, Codex like models, and are getting better if not accelerating faster than before. AI experts alarmed by this tried to stop it and so far it has been ignored. Anti-crypto movement: Yet another buzzword, which after 13 years is still alive and the same techies are still struggling to completely 'destroy' all of it. Due to this, the industry is instead 'regulating' it and picking a remaining few candidates rather than banning everything, because they know they cannot. So you see with these examples above, co-existence is the end result and it has been the same result with the other movements and those hoping to achieve all their goals in preventing or totally stopping all of it is going to be very disappointed.

vinaypai 4y ago

PS: They have also been saying “the last n-1 times we were wrong, but this time is different".

azinman2 4y ago
There is ample reason to believe this time is different, but almost certainly in ways that aren’t predicted right now.
- vinaypai 4y ago
  Yup, just like all the other times.

NO-AI 4y ago

For example, if we as a society refuse to use self-driving cars, we can make the industry unprofitable. Society says, "No, this is not the kind of product we want" and capitalism works to starve the harmful industry.

vinaypai 4y ago
You're pretending that everyone, or even a large subset of people agree with your central premise. The replies on this thread ought to disabuse you of that notion. I, for one, can't wait for self-driving cars to replace the average moron driving multi-ton vehicles around.
- NO-AI 4y ago
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shreyshnaccount 4y ago
Except we as a society can't do crap. If we could, we mightve fixed global warming and emissions by your logic.

dr_kiszonka 4y ago

We just need to start developing politicians-replacing AI to see swift legislative action to regulate any and all AI research.

rvz 4y ago

Unfortunately, I have to agree with what you have just said there. It's going to end with co-existence with this AI technology. We have seen these sort of movements before and there is definitely a pattern: Free-software movement: Calls to reject all close-source software were made by the free-software movement, but once again such software still exists in a worse form (web apps) and 'open-source' has become a corporate buzzword. Cyberpunk-Privacy movement: The same thing happened with the free-software movement where many large companies and others tracking you with their closed-source software can afford the fines and still don't care about your 'privacy' which they also use that as a buzzword. Anti-IoT movement: After that, it that lead to the rise of another buzzword 'Internet of Things' (IoT) that was fought against by the same techies and was lost since many IoT devices are still existing and built by the same companies tracking you with that closed software and tracking information. Current anti-AI movement: AI is another buzzword sung by the tech industry, such that companies like OpenAI became closed and diverted from their goals and others implemented their own GPT, DALL-E, Codex like models, and are getting better if not accelerating faster than before. AI experts alarmed by this tried to stop it and so far it has been ignored. Anti-crypto movement: Yet another buzzword, which after 13 years is still alive and the same techies are still struggling to completely 'destroy' all of it. Due to this, the industry is instead 'regulating' it and picking a remaining few candidates rather than banning everything, because they know they cannot. So you see with these examples above, co-existence is the end result and it has been the same result with the other movements and those hoping to achieve all their goals in preventing or totally stopping all of it is going to be very disappointed.