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Err, they're increasing the restrictions on gun ownership and the kinds of guns that can be owned (such as long guns)... This strikes me as endeavouring to add

Err, they're increasing the restrictions on gun ownership and the kinds of guns that can be owned (such as long guns)... This strikes me as endeavouring to address the problems rather than sending thoughtsandprayers.

version_five 4y ago
What problem are they addressing? They are jumping on American current events to make some laws that are not relevant for canada or Canadian current events, in order to score political points. Canada has lots of real problems that government could focus on, but instead they love token gestures like this.
- jleyank 4y ago
  More guns than people down south. Open border, basically, with US, leading increased smuggling. Trying to keep the ability to shoot-to-kill down in agreement with the rest of the G-7. There's enough issues with the cultural exports of the US, so it makes sense to head off some of the less desirable features. Ideally, they'll couple the reduction of gun availability with an increase in mental health treatment, but the different approach to health care helps a little.
  - refurb 4y ago
    So how does further restricting legal gun ownership in Canada impact the smuggling of illegal weapons? The mass shooting in Nova Scotia where 23 people were killed - those were illegal guns, the RCMP had been told about the guy, and yet nothing was done. Like I said, it's all smoke and mirrors.
    - 908B64B197 4y ago
      > So how does further restricting legal gun ownership in Canada impact the smuggling of illegal weapons? It doesn't. Just makes it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against criminals using illegal weapons.
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refurb 4y ago
Address what problem? Mass shootings in the US? This is exactly what I'm talking about.
- jleyank 4y ago
  The texas and Oklahoma shootings were done with legally-purchased guns that were almost immediately used as designed. As a news article said, it's easier to purchase AR-15's than sudafeds. So, reducing the availability of legal weaponry will have some positive impact on the scale of casualties. It might also reduce the number of accidental or suicide deaths as it's harder with lower-lethality weaponry. It would not impact the 2nd amendment rights to limit the high-end/military style weaponry to some degree. But nothing will be done until there is a sufficient societal change to even consider such restrictions. Won't see that in my lifetime. Hell, some kind of waiting period or red flag law would help.
  - refurb 4y ago
    It would not impact the 2nd amendment rights What does the 2nd amendment have to do with Canada?
    - jleyank 4y ago
      I was discussing us alternatives, but go ahead and play word games. I’ve lived in both countries and have a handle on the respective governmental structures. I know it’s impossible to have some limit where people will change their behaviour re guns in the us. People will just have to live (or not live) with it.

version_five 4y ago

What problem are they addressing? They are jumping on American current events to make some laws that are not relevant for canada or Canadian current events, in order to score political points. Canada has lots of real problems that government could focus on, but instead they love token gestures like this.

jleyank 4y ago
More guns than people down south. Open border, basically, with US, leading increased smuggling. Trying to keep the ability to shoot-to-kill down in agreement with the rest of the G-7. There's enough issues with the cultural exports of the US, so it makes sense to head off some of the less desirable features. Ideally, they'll couple the reduction of gun availability with an increase in mental health treatment, but the different approach to health care helps a little.
- refurb 4y ago
  So how does further restricting legal gun ownership in Canada impact the smuggling of illegal weapons? The mass shooting in Nova Scotia where 23 people were killed - those were illegal guns, the RCMP had been told about the guy, and yet nothing was done. Like I said, it's all smoke and mirrors.
  - 908B64B197 4y ago
    > So how does further restricting legal gun ownership in Canada impact the smuggling of illegal weapons? It doesn't. Just makes it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against criminals using illegal weapons.
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refurb 4y ago

Address what problem? Mass shootings in the US? This is exactly what I'm talking about.

jleyank 4y ago
The texas and Oklahoma shootings were done with legally-purchased guns that were almost immediately used as designed. As a news article said, it's easier to purchase AR-15's than sudafeds. So, reducing the availability of legal weaponry will have some positive impact on the scale of casualties. It might also reduce the number of accidental or suicide deaths as it's harder with lower-lethality weaponry. It would not impact the 2nd amendment rights to limit the high-end/military style weaponry to some degree. But nothing will be done until there is a sufficient societal change to even consider such restrictions. Won't see that in my lifetime. Hell, some kind of waiting period or red flag law would help.
- refurb 4y ago
  It would not impact the 2nd amendment rights What does the 2nd amendment have to do with Canada?
  - jleyank 4y ago
    I was discussing us alternatives, but go ahead and play word games. I’ve lived in both countries and have a handle on the respective governmental structures. I know it’s impossible to have some limit where people will change their behaviour re guns in the us. People will just have to live (or not live) with it.