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I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantatio

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

gruez 4y ago
To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".
- anthropodie 4y ago
  Man I admire how you want yep.com to be successful. I want it too. At this point anyone who will even try to build a search engine will have my backing because God this world deserves another search engine.
- lelandfe 4y ago
  > stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies You'll be happy to hear that Yep selects neither for top positions: https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles. Google, Bing, and Yahoo all get this perfectly right. Other searches are much worse. "los angeles, where to purchase roll of film" top 3 results: https://i.imgur.com/UxEXD0N.png https://i.imgur.com/UxEXD0N.png 1. The movie Battle: Los Angeles on Vudu 2. A fake viagra spam with "la" in the domain 3. The LA muncipality definition of an "Unincorporated Area"
  - teruakohatu 4y ago
    I am not from the USA but I was going to respond to say I don't know if "film stores" have existed for decades, so searching for "photography store" or "camera store" would be far more appropriate... but sadly Yep fails at "photography store in los angeles" and for "camera store in los angeles" only gave one good result :(
- backtoyoujim 4y ago
  I can't wait for the upcoming FilmStores.app that needs to use your microphone, gps, and camera.
- motoxpro 4y ago
  Even if you don't understand the intent, google does. That is what makes it so good. So do a few others. After you compare, yep has a ways to go :) https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://neeva.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://neeva.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://search.brave.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://search.brave.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles
senojsitruc 4y ago
Similarly, I searched for the name of my product (Streamie) and just got porn results.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  I mean..
MacsHeadroom 4y ago
"Camera store Los Angeles" and "Photography store Los Angeles" Both pulled up full pages of results wkth just websites of stores that sell film. Your search-fu is atrophied, if it ever was any good. Non-ML heavy search engines search for identical text on the page. So if you want a store that sells film, you need a keyword combination that would appear on their website; not a vague question or request to a mystical search AI.
- lelandfe 4y ago
  That's searching for specific types of shops, which is different from looking for film. (Your second search is also meh, including truly only 1 relevant result) > if you want a store that sells film, you need a keyword combination that would appear on their website; not a vague question Do you suspect "camera stores" in Los Angeles include neither the words "film" nor "Los Angeles" on their sites? All my keywords are found in every first page Google result (" Top 10 Best Film Camera Store in Los Angeles").
djbusby 4y ago
My First Try https://yep.com/web?q=Camera+store+in+Los+Angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Camera+store+in+Los+Angeles Pick the first result. It's https://www.camphotobur.com/ https://www.camphotobur.com/ Which is, admittedly, in Burbank.

gruez 4y ago

To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".

anthropodie 4y ago
Man I admire how you want yep.com to be successful. I want it too. At this point anyone who will even try to build a search engine will have my backing because God this world deserves another search engine.
lelandfe 4y ago
> stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies You'll be happy to hear that Yep selects neither for top positions: https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles. Google, Bing, and Yahoo all get this perfectly right. Other searches are much worse. "los angeles, where to purchase roll of film" top 3 results: https://i.imgur.com/UxEXD0N.png https://i.imgur.com/UxEXD0N.png 1. The movie Battle: Los Angeles on Vudu 2. A fake viagra spam with "la" in the domain 3. The LA muncipality definition of an "Unincorporated Area"
- teruakohatu 4y ago
  I am not from the USA but I was going to respond to say I don't know if "film stores" have existed for decades, so searching for "photography store" or "camera store" would be far more appropriate... but sadly Yep fails at "photography store in los angeles" and for "camera store in los angeles" only gave one good result :(
backtoyoujim 4y ago
I can't wait for the upcoming FilmStores.app that needs to use your microphone, gps, and camera.
motoxpro 4y ago
Even if you don't understand the intent, google does. That is what makes it so good. So do a few others. After you compare, yep has a ways to go :) https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://neeva.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://neeva.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://search.brave.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://search.brave.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles

senojsitruc 4y ago

Similarly, I searched for the name of my product (Streamie) and just got porn results.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
I mean..

MacsHeadroom 4y ago

"Camera store Los Angeles" and "Photography store Los Angeles" Both pulled up full pages of results wkth just websites of stores that sell film. Your search-fu is atrophied, if it ever was any good. Non-ML heavy search engines search for identical text on the page. So if you want a store that sells film, you need a keyword combination that would appear on their website; not a vague question or request to a mystical search AI.

lelandfe 4y ago
That's searching for specific types of shops, which is different from looking for film. (Your second search is also meh, including truly only 1 relevant result) > if you want a store that sells film, you need a keyword combination that would appear on their website; not a vague question Do you suspect "camera stores" in Los Angeles include neither the words "film" nor "Los Angeles" on their sites? All my keywords are found in every first page Google result (" Top 10 Best Film Camera Store in Los Angeles").

djbusby 4y ago

My First Try https://yep.com/web?q=Camera+store+in+Los+Angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Camera+store+in+Los+Angeles Pick the first result. It's https://www.camphotobur.com/ https://www.camphotobur.com/ Which is, admittedly, in Burbank.