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I wonder how cheap a VPS provider can go. In Spain none of the companies can match OVH, but datacenters in Spain are pretty old regular ones, even the small one

I wonder how cheap a VPS provider can go. In Spain none of the companies can match OVH, but datacenters in Spain are pretty old regular ones, even the small ones like NixVal.

spiffytech 4y ago
https://lowendbox.com/ https://lowendbox.com/ is the go-to place for finding the most shoestring VPS available, and they can come very cheap, either in absolute dollars or in compute-per-dollar.
- Havoc 4y ago
  Or lately https://lowendspirit.com/ https://lowendspirit.com/ - split off from the above. I find the providers there slightly less shady. Though again fly by night is entirely possible so backup accordingly
  - 0des 4y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know about this one. Where can I read more about the split? derp: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/2317/a-year-in-les-reflections-thoughts-my-history-and-the-future-for-lowendspirit/p1 https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/2317/a-year-in-les-refle...
    - Havoc 4y ago
      Yep though current admin is Mason who seems to be running the forum as a no-ads passion project. For now anyway
dx034 4y ago
Hetzner can match OVH. To match their prices you need scale to build your own datacenters and servers. Small providers can't do that, they need to colocate and that'll usually be more expensive than owning your dc.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > Hetzner can match OVH Which begs the question, what do their DCs look like?
  - matthews2 4y ago
    German YouTuber derbauer has a 20 minute tour video of Hetzner's Falkenstein datacentre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM He also has a newer video showing the power distribution, cooling, and fire suppression in one of the Dr Oetker datacentres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTNcbnZjvY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTNcbnZjvY
    - mkj 4y ago
      That's a nice tour video, thanks for posting it. It's nice to see less secrecy in how they run things vs other cloud providers.
  - dx034 4y ago
    In addition to the video posted: Their DCs tend to be outside of cities (cheaper space), low density and single story (much easier to cool). If you buy cheap land and keep server density low, both building the dc as well as cooling is much cheaper (you can mostly use ambient air with lower grade fans). Hetzner is also known to do everything in-house, slows them down building new dcs and expanding to new locations but keeps cost down and the company independent.

I wonder how cheap a VPS provider can go. In Spain none of the companies can match OVH, but datacenters in Spain are pretty old regular ones, even the small ones like NixVal.

spiffytech 4y ago

https://lowendbox.com/ https://lowendbox.com/ is the go-to place for finding the most shoestring VPS available, and they can come very cheap, either in absolute dollars or in compute-per-dollar.

Havoc 4y ago
Or lately https://lowendspirit.com/ https://lowendspirit.com/ - split off from the above. I find the providers there slightly less shady. Though again fly by night is entirely possible so backup accordingly
- 0des 4y ago
  Thanks, I didn't know about this one. Where can I read more about the split? derp: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/2317/a-year-in-les-reflections-thoughts-my-history-and-the-future-for-lowendspirit/p1 https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/2317/a-year-in-les-refle...
  - Havoc 4y ago
    Yep though current admin is Mason who seems to be running the forum as a no-ads passion project. For now anyway

dx034 4y ago

Hetzner can match OVH. To match their prices you need scale to build your own datacenters and servers. Small providers can't do that, they need to colocate and that'll usually be more expensive than owning your dc.

sofixa 4y ago
> Hetzner can match OVH Which begs the question, what do their DCs look like?
- matthews2 4y ago
  German YouTuber derbauer has a 20 minute tour video of Hetzner's Falkenstein datacentre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM He also has a newer video showing the power distribution, cooling, and fire suppression in one of the Dr Oetker datacentres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTNcbnZjvY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTNcbnZjvY
  - mkj 4y ago
    That's a nice tour video, thanks for posting it. It's nice to see less secrecy in how they run things vs other cloud providers.
- dx034 4y ago
  In addition to the video posted: Their DCs tend to be outside of cities (cheaper space), low density and single story (much easier to cool). If you buy cheap land and keep server density low, both building the dc as well as cooling is much cheaper (you can mostly use ambient air with lower grade fans). Hetzner is also known to do everything in-house, slows them down building new dcs and expanding to new locations but keeps cost down and the company independent.