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People should consider the possibility that this is parody.

by IfOnlyYouKnew 4y ago

adamrezich 4y ago
why? what am I missing?
- topgun77 4y ago
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  In style and content it max-es out on the "I am very smart" scale. So-called rationalists will comb through comments they see as oppositional and accuse them as being emotional as a way to "win" the "argument". It's funny that in the thread about rationalism someone posted a comment that checks off all the boxes. It's really well done.
  - adamrezich 4y ago
    I've never been too familiar with the whole "rationalist" sphere or whatever but assuming what you're saying is true, does this mean that now, the mere act of pointing out the fact that someone is using emotionally-charged language or otherwise indicating an emotional appeal is being made, cannot be done without immediately triggering a "lol typical 'rationalist' take, such dispassion, very sophist, wow" type of response? if so, that seems like a net loss for everyone. these days I am always on the lookout for indications of the existence of heuristics that allow people to dismiss things out of hand using surface-level analysis, and I attempt to be as mindful about these things as possible, in order to most efficiently pursue Truth by attempting to let such things cloud my judgement as little as possible. hopefully this doesn't make me one of these apparently hated "rational" types...!
    - kelseyfrog 4y ago
      > hopefully this doesn't make me one of these apparently hated "rational" types...! Maybe? I don't know. :) It's fun exploring the art of discourse on HN. The moment I added pathos and pathos to the logos I was using, my online conversations got a lot better. It's fun playing around with 2600 year old tradition of rhetoric, trying rhetorical concepts out and seeing how people respond.
  - topgun77 4y ago
    All I’m saying is to substantiate your claims. That’s it.
guerrilla 4y ago
They were serious (which you can see in flagged/grey comments they keep leaving.)
kjeetgill 4y ago
I thought so too. Then I saw them in the rest of this thread. I still can't tell if it's sincere or not, but it cast doubt on my absolute certainty that this post was parody.
- topgun77 4y ago

People should consider the possibility that this is parody.

adamrezich 4y ago

why? what am I missing?

topgun77 4y ago
kelseyfrog 4y ago
In style and content it max-es out on the "I am very smart" scale. So-called rationalists will comb through comments they see as oppositional and accuse them as being emotional as a way to "win" the "argument". It's funny that in the thread about rationalism someone posted a comment that checks off all the boxes. It's really well done.
- adamrezich 4y ago
  I've never been too familiar with the whole "rationalist" sphere or whatever but assuming what you're saying is true, does this mean that now, the mere act of pointing out the fact that someone is using emotionally-charged language or otherwise indicating an emotional appeal is being made, cannot be done without immediately triggering a "lol typical 'rationalist' take, such dispassion, very sophist, wow" type of response? if so, that seems like a net loss for everyone. these days I am always on the lookout for indications of the existence of heuristics that allow people to dismiss things out of hand using surface-level analysis, and I attempt to be as mindful about these things as possible, in order to most efficiently pursue Truth by attempting to let such things cloud my judgement as little as possible. hopefully this doesn't make me one of these apparently hated "rational" types...!
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    > hopefully this doesn't make me one of these apparently hated "rational" types...! Maybe? I don't know. :) It's fun exploring the art of discourse on HN. The moment I added pathos and pathos to the logos I was using, my online conversations got a lot better. It's fun playing around with 2600 year old tradition of rhetoric, trying rhetorical concepts out and seeing how people respond.
- topgun77 4y ago
  All I’m saying is to substantiate your claims. That’s it.

guerrilla 4y ago

They were serious (which you can see in flagged/grey comments they keep leaving.)

kjeetgill 4y ago

I thought so too. Then I saw them in the rest of this thread. I still can't tell if it's sincere or not, but it cast doubt on my absolute certainty that this post was parody.

topgun77 4y ago