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Somebody forgot to tell these guys that iPads are for content consumption, not creation.

by killion 15y ago

alexhaefner 15y ago
I'm just curious, do you feel like this was a meaningful contribution to this discussion? 0 added value, and virtually no insight in your post. Your post has nothing to do with what they've created.
- killion 15y ago
  It's meant as a humorous reference to all the content creation v. consumption talk when the iPad came out. http://allthingsd.com/20110302/so-tablets-arent-for-content-creation-huh-the-ipad-2-begs-to-differ/ http://allthingsd.com/20110302/so-tablets-arent-for-content-... Not everything has to be serious.
- nl 15y ago
  It has a huge amount of insight. When the iPad came out it was (naively) decried as a device that segmented computing into "content consumption" and "content creation". Apps like this continue to prove that wrong.
  - prodigal_erik 15y ago
    If Apple doesn't ban this app, it will be a dramatic about-face from the offensive "no code other than what we permit" policy they've held since day one. I don't think it's naïve to be surprised they might actually cave after so many years of criticism by makers went nowhere. Hell, if they're going to start treating me like a human being and actually mean it, I might even buy one.
  - prayag 15y ago
    Actually it's true. Apple removed Scratch from their app-store because "Apple wants to focus on consuming media using these devices, not producing media."[1] [1] http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipadiphoneitouch/ http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-sc...
    - nl 15y ago
      That's Scratch users speculating on the reason, not an Apple statement. At the time Apple policies were very restrictive about non-approved languages (Flash, etc), but they have since been relaxed. Ironically I just posted asking if Apple would allow it now: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3161245 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3161245
      - jonbro 15y ago
        also, it wasn't really scratch that they didn't approve, it was a scratch player. The player downloaded and played scratch programs from the website. This continues to be something that is not allowed. I would like to see apple reverse this decision though.
- greyish_water 15y ago
  And yours?
mdonahoe 15y ago
With more apps like this, hopefully that will change. Until then, more angry birds!
recoiledsnake 15y ago
Somebody forgot to tell you that the created content can only be used by you and not others. This is because the app is prohibited by Apple from downloading and running code. Want to run a cool program you wrote on your mom's iPad? Gotta type it all over again. This is because Apple prohibits apps from running downloaded code. How useful is that? Not to mention the banning of similar apps that don't use Lua or JS and even prototyping apps. This prototyping app was in limbo in the app store for 3 months before the developer just gave up in disgust. http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/1015614125/google-voice-says-hi http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/1015614125/google-voice-says-h... http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/659211315/almost-on-the-app-store http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/659211315/almost-on-the-app-st... Now THAT is(or could've been) a useful content creation app, but you can't have it. In contrast, even MS with a similarly closed ecosystem, provides a development system on Windows Phone with a tool from Microsoft Research that allows users to write, share and run code from the cloud directly on the phone. http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/touchdevelop/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/touchdevelop/
acak 15y ago
Apple doesn't think so. Their own iPad apps - the iWork suite, iMovie and Garageband are very capable in producing some pretty neat content. iWork and iMovie are available not just for the iPad but for the iPhone as well. I've found the iPhone version of iMovie to be very competent for casual movie editing - proving that content creation can be form-factor agnostic.
solipsist 15y ago
"A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them." - Steve Jobs
seclorum 15y ago
Take another look at the Music section of the Appstore. All-too-many content creation tools in there, you know ..

Somebody forgot to tell these guys that iPads are for content consumption, not creation.

by killion 15y ago

Somebody forgot to tell these guys that iPads are for content consumption, not creation.

I'm just curious, do you feel like this was a meaningful contribution to this discussion? 0 added value, and virtually no insight in your post. Your post has nothing to do with what they've created.

killion 15y ago
It's meant as a humorous reference to all the content creation v. consumption talk when the iPad came out. http://allthingsd.com/20110302/so-tablets-arent-for-content-creation-huh-the-ipad-2-begs-to-differ/ http://allthingsd.com/20110302/so-tablets-arent-for-content-... Not everything has to be serious.
nl 15y ago
It has a huge amount of insight. When the iPad came out it was (naively) decried as a device that segmented computing into "content consumption" and "content creation". Apps like this continue to prove that wrong.
- prodigal_erik 15y ago
  If Apple doesn't ban this app, it will be a dramatic about-face from the offensive "no code other than what we permit" policy they've held since day one. I don't think it's naïve to be surprised they might actually cave after so many years of criticism by makers went nowhere. Hell, if they're going to start treating me like a human being and actually mean it, I might even buy one.
- prayag 15y ago
  Actually it's true. Apple removed Scratch from their app-store because "Apple wants to focus on consuming media using these devices, not producing media."[1] [1] http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipadiphoneitouch/ http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-sc...
  - nl 15y ago
    That's Scratch users speculating on the reason, not an Apple statement. At the time Apple policies were very restrictive about non-approved languages (Flash, etc), but they have since been relaxed. Ironically I just posted asking if Apple would allow it now: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3161245 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3161245
    - jonbro 15y ago
      also, it wasn't really scratch that they didn't approve, it was a scratch player. The player downloaded and played scratch programs from the website. This continues to be something that is not allowed. I would like to see apple reverse this decision though.
greyish_water 15y ago
And yours?

mdonahoe 15y ago

With more apps like this, hopefully that will change. Until then, more angry birds!

recoiledsnake 15y ago

Somebody forgot to tell you that the created content can only be used by you and not others. This is because the app is prohibited by Apple from downloading and running code. Want to run a cool program you wrote on your mom's iPad? Gotta type it all over again. This is because Apple prohibits apps from running downloaded code. How useful is that? Not to mention the banning of similar apps that don't use Lua or JS and even prototyping apps. This prototyping app was in limbo in the app store for 3 months before the developer just gave up in disgust. http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/1015614125/google-voice-says-hi http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/1015614125/google-voice-says-h... http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/659211315/almost-on-the-app-store http://blog.robrhyne.com/post/659211315/almost-on-the-app-st... Now THAT is(or could've been) a useful content creation app, but you can't have it. In contrast, even MS with a similarly closed ecosystem, provides a development system on Windows Phone with a tool from Microsoft Research that allows users to write, share and run code from the cloud directly on the phone. http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/touchdevelop/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/touchdevelop/

acak 15y ago

Apple doesn't think so. Their own iPad apps - the iWork suite, iMovie and Garageband are very capable in producing some pretty neat content. iWork and iMovie are available not just for the iPad but for the iPhone as well. I've found the iPhone version of iMovie to be very competent for casual movie editing - proving that content creation can be form-factor agnostic.

solipsist 15y ago

"A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them." - Steve Jobs

seclorum 15y ago

Take another look at the Music section of the Appstore. All-too-many content creation tools in there, you know ..