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I didn't take up coffee drinking until my late-20's. At first I took my coffee black, then I read how caffeine boosts the metabolism. This draws down sugar from

I didn't take up coffee drinking until my late-20's. At first I took my coffee black, then I read how caffeine boosts the metabolism. This draws down sugar from the blood. To avoid a cortisol response, it's best to complement the caffeine in coffee with sugar. This study seems to confirm that fake sugar is harmful. I have family who drink fake-sugar cola products - these don't help their weight. I've seen one person fall apart 'mentally' within 1/2 hour of drinking an electrolyte beverage made with sucralose and other fake sugar. Ideally glucose is consumed with potassium, to avoid insulin release: milk, orange juice, potatoes, etc... Fructose does not stimulate the release of insulin.

vorpalhex 4y ago
> This draws down sugar from the blood. To avoid a cortisol response.. I mean, so does running, swimming, watching an exciting movie.. > This study seems to confirm that fake sugar is harmful. This study confirms no such thing. > have family who drink fake-sugar cola products - these don't help their weight. Yes but (probably) not because the fake sugar but because their palette is too sweet focused. You need dietary change to lose weight. > I've seen one person fall apart 'mentally' within 1/2 hour of drinking an electrolyte beverage made with sucralose and other fake sugar. I've seen someone have a heart attack after crossing paths with a black cat. I don't think it was the cats fault.
robonerd 4y ago
"electrolyte beverages", e.g. gatorade, are generally not caffeinated. Why would somebody fall apart after drinking one without sugar? It's basically just water with food coloring and a bit of sodium and potassium. Also, I've been taking caffeine pills for the better part of a decade, often on an empty stomach. There's no crash from the absence of sugar, the only sort of crash I get occurs a few days after each time I try to quit the stuff.
- outworlder 4y ago
  > Why would somebody fall apart after drinking one without sugar Probably dehydrated and whatever hydration they did get wasn't sufficient.
outworlder 4y ago
> Fructose does not stimulate the release of insulin. It does, but less so than glucose. That may help on the insulin response curve but will only help weight if you keep calories down. Energy is energy. It's not a panacea either. Can be harmful. Eg. https://www.genengnews.com/topics/omics/fructose-is-harder-than-glucose-on-liver-if-diet-is-rich-in-fat/ https://www.genengnews.com/topics/omics/fructose-is-harder-t...

vorpalhex 4y ago

> This draws down sugar from the blood. To avoid a cortisol response.. I mean, so does running, swimming, watching an exciting movie.. > This study seems to confirm that fake sugar is harmful. This study confirms no such thing. > have family who drink fake-sugar cola products - these don't help their weight. Yes but (probably) not because the fake sugar but because their palette is too sweet focused. You need dietary change to lose weight. > I've seen one person fall apart 'mentally' within 1/2 hour of drinking an electrolyte beverage made with sucralose and other fake sugar. I've seen someone have a heart attack after crossing paths with a black cat. I don't think it was the cats fault.

robonerd 4y ago

"electrolyte beverages", e.g. gatorade, are generally not caffeinated. Why would somebody fall apart after drinking one without sugar? It's basically just water with food coloring and a bit of sodium and potassium. Also, I've been taking caffeine pills for the better part of a decade, often on an empty stomach. There's no crash from the absence of sugar, the only sort of crash I get occurs a few days after each time I try to quit the stuff.

outworlder 4y ago
> Why would somebody fall apart after drinking one without sugar Probably dehydrated and whatever hydration they did get wasn't sufficient.

outworlder 4y ago

> Fructose does not stimulate the release of insulin. It does, but less so than glucose. That may help on the insulin response curve but will only help weight if you keep calories down. Energy is energy. It's not a panacea either. Can be harmful. Eg. https://www.genengnews.com/topics/omics/fructose-is-harder-than-glucose-on-liver-if-diet-is-rich-in-fat/ https://www.genengnews.com/topics/omics/fructose-is-harder-t...