5 ms·

Couple thoughts/ideas for further research: - Is sweetened coffee also adding creamer? I don't know of many people who take coffee with sugar but no cream. The

Couple thoughts/ideas for further research: - Is sweetened coffee also adding creamer? I don't know of many people who take coffee with sugar but no cream. They usually go together. - Were coffee preparation methods at all considered? I don't know if everyone in the trial was being served the same coffee or if respondents prepared coffee in whatever manner they liked and just reported how much coffee/how sweet they made it. Different methods may require more or less sweetner, so the guy who takes it black might be e.g. doing a Chemex/pourover, while the guy doing cream and sugar might be going through a standard drip. A third might be doing a French Press. The extractions from those methods will be wildly different.

bena 4y ago
I've seen it all. Black. Sugar, no cream. Cream, no sugar. I think your observations may be more influenced by who you know.
- bestouff 4y ago
  I mostly see people taking coffee without cream. Sugar or no sugar is very roughly a 50/50 affair.
  - mirekrusin 4y ago
    My poison is coffee with frothed oat milk (oat milks are so good nowadays), no need for extra sugar. 2nd one black - pure or with one drop of la perruche sugar cube - depending on the mood.
dwringer 4y ago
Cuban coffee is made with (a lot of) sugar but no cream. Granted that might not make up a big percentage of the study group if it's from the UK.
- justinlloyd 4y ago
  I do not know if coffee habits in the UK have changed in the past 25 years since I lived there, and I fully expect that they have with the rise of Starbucks and other "gourmet" coffee chains, but a lot of UK coffee consumption was instant coffee granules, at least during the 1980's and 1990's. That would be an interesting piece of data to observe, what kind of coffee were these people drinking? Instant? Ground? Pods?
mrcartmeneses 4y ago
It’s the sugar. Low fat food is a conspiracy by the sugar industry https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074...
- erie 4y ago
  I think coffee with cream, Latte and cappuccino, has contributed to my high cholesterol, with 3 to 4 cups daily, now I am going for Americano.
- xiphias2 4y ago
  Putting sugar and other types of sweeteners together means it's a badly designed study
  - mrcartmeneses 4y ago
    Yep. Sweeteners have a terrible impact on the body because they produce an insulin response despite not being sugar in your bloodstream needing to be flushed.
- feoren 4y ago
  That's certainly the conclusion I was expecting to read, yet the study found that sweetened coffee drinkers also had a lower mortality rate than the general population (albeit slightly less of an effect than with the unsweetened group).
rjsw 4y ago
I drink black coffee with sugar.
em500 4y ago
> - Were coffee preparation methods at all considered? I don't know if everyone in the trial was being served the same coffee or if respondents prepared coffee in whatever manner they liked and just reported how much coffee/how sweet they made it. It was not a controlled trial, it's an observational study. They had a few hundred thousand people fill in a questionaire (up to 5 times in different seasons) about their diet (sweetened/unsweetened/type of coffee consumption were only a few of the many questions). They registered the answers and compareed a few years later how many died, with statistical controlls for different observed characteristics between drinkers and non-drinkers. Full details: https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/16093/Sweetened%20and%20Unsweetened%20Coffee.pdf https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/16093/Sweetened%20...
enviclash 4y ago
And what about honey? In my subjective experience it smoothes the impact of caffeine in my body.

bena 4y ago

I've seen it all. Black. Sugar, no cream. Cream, no sugar. I think your observations may be more influenced by who you know.

bestouff 4y ago
I mostly see people taking coffee without cream. Sugar or no sugar is very roughly a 50/50 affair.
- mirekrusin 4y ago
  My poison is coffee with frothed oat milk (oat milks are so good nowadays), no need for extra sugar. 2nd one black - pure or with one drop of la perruche sugar cube - depending on the mood.

dwringer 4y ago

Cuban coffee is made with (a lot of) sugar but no cream. Granted that might not make up a big percentage of the study group if it's from the UK.

justinlloyd 4y ago
I do not know if coffee habits in the UK have changed in the past 25 years since I lived there, and I fully expect that they have with the rise of Starbucks and other "gourmet" coffee chains, but a lot of UK coffee consumption was instant coffee granules, at least during the 1980's and 1990's. That would be an interesting piece of data to observe, what kind of coffee were these people drinking? Instant? Ground? Pods?

mrcartmeneses 4y ago

It’s the sugar. Low fat food is a conspiracy by the sugar industry https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074...

erie 4y ago
I think coffee with cream, Latte and cappuccino, has contributed to my high cholesterol, with 3 to 4 cups daily, now I am going for Americano.
xiphias2 4y ago
Putting sugar and other types of sweeteners together means it's a badly designed study
- mrcartmeneses 4y ago
  Yep. Sweeteners have a terrible impact on the body because they produce an insulin response despite not being sugar in your bloodstream needing to be flushed.
feoren 4y ago
That's certainly the conclusion I was expecting to read, yet the study found that sweetened coffee drinkers also had a lower mortality rate than the general population (albeit slightly less of an effect than with the unsweetened group).

rjsw 4y ago

I drink black coffee with sugar.

em500 4y ago

> - Were coffee preparation methods at all considered? I don't know if everyone in the trial was being served the same coffee or if respondents prepared coffee in whatever manner they liked and just reported how much coffee/how sweet they made it. It was not a controlled trial, it's an observational study. They had a few hundred thousand people fill in a questionaire (up to 5 times in different seasons) about their diet (sweetened/unsweetened/type of coffee consumption were only a few of the many questions). They registered the answers and compareed a few years later how many died, with statistical controlls for different observed characteristics between drinkers and non-drinkers. Full details: https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/16093/Sweetened%20and%20Unsweetened%20Coffee.pdf https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/16093/Sweetened%20...

enviclash 4y ago

And what about honey? In my subjective experience it smoothes the impact of caffeine in my body.