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Came here hoping for insightful thoughts about the layoffs and market conditions only to be presented with a tidalwave of hate seemingly stemming from a lot of

Came here hoping for insightful thoughts about the layoffs and market conditions only to be presented with a tidalwave of hate seemingly stemming from a lot of personal dislike of the Tesla CEO. There's been a lot of chatter lately about how HN is getting more and more negative, and this appears to be evidence of valid criticism.

zarriak 4y ago
I appreciate wanting proper discussion but if you genuinely thought that any comment section discussing Elon Musk was going to be productive I would like to ask for a counter example where one has occurred. It would be very instructive in many ways on how to build such a community and platform.
- andrew_ 4y ago
  I get your point. Is that an excuse for HN to give into the same? If I wanted outrage and ranting on personalities, there's a lot of other places I could go for that. I came here a few years back because it was a less hostile, more objective community. Genuinely bums me out that we're giving this a pass now just because of the subject matter.
  - zarriak 4y ago
    I get your point but at this point there isn’t any place that can constructively hold this conversation. I still this type of conversations can happen but it is difficult because of the inherent biases against and for the people conveying the messages that is going to be much stronger in the cohort that uses HN.
pmcollins 4y ago
Same. I wouldn't have expected this amount of vitriol on a site for science and technology enthusiasts and hackers -- people who often are the builders in society -- about a guy who ... successfully builds electric cars and spaceships. It's a shame because the thoughtful, moderate commenters just leave and are less likely to come back. And btw SpaceX laid off around the same pct of workers a while back and they're doing fine now. Same with a lot of companies, some of which I was working for at the time, and I don't think their leadership was evil.
01100011 4y ago
More and more folks are flipping on their opinion of Elon. His antics are beginning to overshadow his accomplishments. HN comments have been going downhill for years.

zarriak 4y ago

I appreciate wanting proper discussion but if you genuinely thought that any comment section discussing Elon Musk was going to be productive I would like to ask for a counter example where one has occurred. It would be very instructive in many ways on how to build such a community and platform.

andrew_ 4y ago
I get your point. Is that an excuse for HN to give into the same? If I wanted outrage and ranting on personalities, there's a lot of other places I could go for that. I came here a few years back because it was a less hostile, more objective community. Genuinely bums me out that we're giving this a pass now just because of the subject matter.
- zarriak 4y ago
  I get your point but at this point there isn’t any place that can constructively hold this conversation. I still this type of conversations can happen but it is difficult because of the inherent biases against and for the people conveying the messages that is going to be much stronger in the cohort that uses HN.

pmcollins 4y ago

Same. I wouldn't have expected this amount of vitriol on a site for science and technology enthusiasts and hackers -- people who often are the builders in society -- about a guy who ... successfully builds electric cars and spaceships. It's a shame because the thoughtful, moderate commenters just leave and are less likely to come back. And btw SpaceX laid off around the same pct of workers a while back and they're doing fine now. Same with a lot of companies, some of which I was working for at the time, and I don't think their leadership was evil.

01100011 4y ago

More and more folks are flipping on their opinion of Elon. His antics are beginning to overshadow his accomplishments. HN comments have been going downhill for years.