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The point the author is making is that that "due process" happens after your hypothetical front door is kicked down and dog shot, unfortunately.

nicoburns 4y ago
I mean, that may well be true. But is so that's a problem with law enforcement and the justice system in general, not with the domain registrar. I believe for example, that it is extremely rare to have your door knocked down here in the UK. The police will generally politely knock and or ring the doorbell, and only knock your door down if you refuse to let them in.
- Shank 4y ago
  > The police will generally politely knock and or ring the doorbell, and only knock your door down if you refuse to let them in. I highly doubt that this is going to be the case if the warrant says that you’re wanted for child abuse imagery or human trafficking. I’m sure they’re lovely for small infractions, though.
  - bckygldstn 4y ago
    That’s a surprising pair of crimes to equate, as to me they warrant very different police responses. Police violence ought to be a last-resort tool to e.g. prevent further crime or injury to innocents. Not as a punishment that scales with the abhorrence (or moral panic) of the crime. There’s no need to send the swat team for a non-violent non-organised criminal, monster though they may be. > I highly doubt At least on paper UK police aim to take a more evidence-based light-touch community-building approach to policing, so I'd be curious what reasons you have to doubt this claim? The assumption that US morality and culture applies globally is tiring and misses out on an opportunity for learning through comparison.
- cgriswald 4y ago
  > I mean, that may well be true. But is so that's a problem with law enforcement and the justice system in general, not with the domain registrar. It is a problem with the justice system. It is also a problem with the registrar. The registrar operates in this environment and is seemingly breaking official ICANN rules.
njovin 4y ago
And after you possibly have assets seized, which you may not even get back even if charges are never filed (in the US).

nicoburns 4y ago

I mean, that may well be true. But is so that's a problem with law enforcement and the justice system in general, not with the domain registrar. I believe for example, that it is extremely rare to have your door knocked down here in the UK. The police will generally politely knock and or ring the doorbell, and only knock your door down if you refuse to let them in.

Shank 4y ago
> The police will generally politely knock and or ring the doorbell, and only knock your door down if you refuse to let them in. I highly doubt that this is going to be the case if the warrant says that you’re wanted for child abuse imagery or human trafficking. I’m sure they’re lovely for small infractions, though.
- bckygldstn 4y ago
  That’s a surprising pair of crimes to equate, as to me they warrant very different police responses. Police violence ought to be a last-resort tool to e.g. prevent further crime or injury to innocents. Not as a punishment that scales with the abhorrence (or moral panic) of the crime. There’s no need to send the swat team for a non-violent non-organised criminal, monster though they may be. > I highly doubt At least on paper UK police aim to take a more evidence-based light-touch community-building approach to policing, so I'd be curious what reasons you have to doubt this claim? The assumption that US morality and culture applies globally is tiring and misses out on an opportunity for learning through comparison.
cgriswald 4y ago
> I mean, that may well be true. But is so that's a problem with law enforcement and the justice system in general, not with the domain registrar. It is a problem with the justice system. It is also a problem with the registrar. The registrar operates in this environment and is seemingly breaking official ICANN rules.

njovin 4y ago

And after you possibly have assets seized, which you may not even get back even if charges are never filed (in the US).