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This is amazing news. Apple will never voluntarily give up the licensing revenue from mandating Lightning chargers. This puts the onus on consumers, and makes i

This is amazing news. Apple will never voluntarily give up the licensing revenue from mandating Lightning chargers. This puts the onus on consumers, and makes it harder for people to switch ecosystems. A great example of productive regulation.

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
It's great news right now - but what happens when a newer better standard comes along and now these regulations keep us with the better than lightning but pretty problematic for a multitude of reasons USB-C? One can hope the EU will adapt appropriately, but I'm skeptical. There's also the very distinct possibility that Apple will just do away with the port entirely, which IMO is also a loss for consumers.
- Shadonototra 4y ago
  bullshit, fragmentation is a loss for consumers, having standard cable helps everyone stay on the same page and advance at the same pace, avoiding useless waste, and lets everyone reuse their equipment whenever they have to buy a new phone the future is wireless anyways, so let's move toward that path with the less friction possible
  - 0xfaded 4y ago
    Anecdotally my last pixel died because the USB-C connector wore out. I have an old iPad that once experienced similar use, and it can still hang upsidedown by the lightning connector. But agreed, hopefully this all goes away with wireless.
    - Shadonototra 4y ago
      pixel phones are known to be poorly built https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/android/242818/google-pixel-5-suffers-from-alarming-build-quality-problem https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/android/242818/google-pixel-... my mechanical keyboard uses USB C and bluetooth, i switch modes constantly, and it is still solid today
- jdsully 4y ago
  They already moved on from micro-USB so its happened once already.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
    Who is "they" in this case? Certainly not the EU mandate, since that has never existed before?
    - jdsully 4y ago
      > Following a mandate from the European Commission, the European Standardisation Bodies CEN-CENELEC and ETSI have now made available the harmonised standards needed for the manufacture of data-enabled mobile phones compatible with a new common charger Circa 2010. Apple had an exemption https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization-bodies-formalize-micro-usb-cellphone-ch.html https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization...

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago

It's great news right now - but what happens when a newer better standard comes along and now these regulations keep us with the better than lightning but pretty problematic for a multitude of reasons USB-C? One can hope the EU will adapt appropriately, but I'm skeptical. There's also the very distinct possibility that Apple will just do away with the port entirely, which IMO is also a loss for consumers.

Shadonototra 4y ago
bullshit, fragmentation is a loss for consumers, having standard cable helps everyone stay on the same page and advance at the same pace, avoiding useless waste, and lets everyone reuse their equipment whenever they have to buy a new phone the future is wireless anyways, so let's move toward that path with the less friction possible
- 0xfaded 4y ago
  Anecdotally my last pixel died because the USB-C connector wore out. I have an old iPad that once experienced similar use, and it can still hang upsidedown by the lightning connector. But agreed, hopefully this all goes away with wireless.
  - Shadonototra 4y ago
    pixel phones are known to be poorly built https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/android/242818/google-pixel-5-suffers-from-alarming-build-quality-problem https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/android/242818/google-pixel-... my mechanical keyboard uses USB C and bluetooth, i switch modes constantly, and it is still solid today
jdsully 4y ago
They already moved on from micro-USB so its happened once already.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
  Who is "they" in this case? Certainly not the EU mandate, since that has never existed before?
  - jdsully 4y ago
    > Following a mandate from the European Commission, the European Standardisation Bodies CEN-CENELEC and ETSI have now made available the harmonised standards needed for the manufacture of data-enabled mobile phones compatible with a new common charger Circa 2010. Apple had an exemption https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization-bodies-formalize-micro-usb-cellphone-ch.html https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization...