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Been through a couple of layoffs at a variety of different companies through out my career and personally managed to dodge the bullet each time (so this isn't a

Been through a couple of layoffs at a variety of different companies through out my career and personally managed to dodge the bullet each time (so this isn't a sour grapes type response). It is very important to recognize: who gets laid off has nothing to do with whether or not they are a "good worker". The "good worker" narrative is there to justify management's decisions and reduce survivor's guilt, but you'll see when layoffs come amazing talent and mediocre talent are equally removed. Management has zero problem laying off incredible people en masse.

ericmay 4y ago
Yes but in this case we're talking about returning to the office, which doesn't have the exact same dynamics. In the case of the return to office dynamic, you're specifically filtering out high-quality workers who also prefer to be remote, and the results are retention of all low/medium quality workers regardless of remote/office preference, and high quality workers who don't mind or have some reason that keeps them in the office. You don't filter out low-quality workers whatsoever because they'll at least go to the office to keep their job assuming they don't have options (or else they'd be higher quality workers or maybe they just leave the work force).
- sillysaurusx 4y ago
  As a fly on the wall, I think you both agree! Both of your points are very good and aren’t mutually exclusive at all. Quite the opposite.
- XorNot 4y ago
  Keep in mind though that Elon can just say this, even send the memo... Then fire who he wants anyway, keep whoever is still remote and kept and pitch to the market that this "realignment" has made the company stronger by sucking right up to the expectations of your average distrustful exec.
- Beldin 4y ago
  > you're specifically filtering out... ...everyone for whom a full return to the office is a breaking point. You assume that correlates with capability of the employeeto perform their job well. That does seem reasonable, but it remains just that: an assumption. And you know the thing about assumptions : they make a donkey out of U and MPTIONS.
  - Shaanie 4y ago
    No, he's assuming that low performers would have a harder time finding a new job with equal or better pay. Which may or may not be true.
    - Beldin 4y ago
      Why would they be looking for a new job if this wasn't a breaking point or final straw for them?
      - ericmay 4y ago
        They wouldn't be, which is why I believe this forced return to office action just filters out high-performers who wish to remain remote and it retains almost all of the low/medium skill workers and almost all of the high-skill no preference or work in office preferred high skill workers.

ericmay 4y ago

Yes but in this case we're talking about returning to the office, which doesn't have the exact same dynamics. In the case of the return to office dynamic, you're specifically filtering out high-quality workers who also prefer to be remote, and the results are retention of all low/medium quality workers regardless of remote/office preference, and high quality workers who don't mind or have some reason that keeps them in the office. You don't filter out low-quality workers whatsoever because they'll at least go to the office to keep their job assuming they don't have options (or else they'd be higher quality workers or maybe they just leave the work force).

sillysaurusx 4y ago
As a fly on the wall, I think you both agree! Both of your points are very good and aren’t mutually exclusive at all. Quite the opposite.
XorNot 4y ago
Keep in mind though that Elon can just say this, even send the memo... Then fire who he wants anyway, keep whoever is still remote and kept and pitch to the market that this "realignment" has made the company stronger by sucking right up to the expectations of your average distrustful exec.
Beldin 4y ago
> you're specifically filtering out... ...everyone for whom a full return to the office is a breaking point. You assume that correlates with capability of the employeeto perform their job well. That does seem reasonable, but it remains just that: an assumption. And you know the thing about assumptions : they make a donkey out of U and MPTIONS.
- Shaanie 4y ago
  No, he's assuming that low performers would have a harder time finding a new job with equal or better pay. Which may or may not be true.
  - Beldin 4y ago
    Why would they be looking for a new job if this wasn't a breaking point or final straw for them?
    - ericmay 4y ago
      They wouldn't be, which is why I believe this forced return to office action just filters out high-performers who wish to remain remote and it retains almost all of the low/medium skill workers and almost all of the high-skill no preference or work in office preferred high skill workers.