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I am not sure credit card fraud is innocent pranks or misbehavior... I can tell you with certainty that most teenagers have never committed that sort of crimes

I am not sure credit card fraud is innocent pranks or misbehavior... I can tell you with certainty that most teenagers have never committed that sort of crimes tbh.

kingkawn 4y ago
Here’s your merit badge for pedantry
samtheDamned 4y ago
You'd be surprised..
stavros 4y ago
Not for lack of trying.
Jerrrry 4y ago
Always-online teenagers are a different demographic than your "average" teenager. the highs of an exploit working or a bypass make drugs look like candy.
williamcotton 4y ago
If we’re talking about the AOHell era of the mid 90s then I have anecdotal evidence that the majority of kids I knew were committing some kind of wire fraud in exchange for internet access! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOHell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOHell
toss1 4y ago
Said the one who clearly missed out....
samstave 4y ago
Credit card fraud was really common in the 80 among "hacker" types. I knew of several in Lake Tahoe that were high-school kids at the time in the late 80s - someohow managed to get credit cards and would order deliveries to "vacation homes" in lake tahoe where they knew the owners lived in the bay area and wouldnt be at the house - and would have things dropped off to the vacant houses to go get them. Also, in 1980 - we had a payphone inside our home in Tahoe. I didnt know this was an odd thing to have until much later.
- watwut 4y ago
  Late 1980 was when criminality was going up and right before its peak. It is quite lower now ... and people who were teenagers in late 1980 are almost 60 now.
  - chowchowchow 4y ago
    Check your math on that one. More like 50 +/- a few years.
  - samstave 4y ago
    Im 47. Started Highschool in 1989
    - samstave 4y ago
      Also, I have been using computers since 1984... Online since 1993.
cortesoft 4y ago
All credit card fraud is not created equal. He didn't steal any physical goods, nor did he steal anyone's credit card. He stole some hours of internet connection, which probably didn't cost the ISP that much. Not saying it is totally fine, but it really isn't that bad.
jhgb 4y ago
While in general I'm tempted to agree with you, if anyone deserves it, it's probably telcos anyway.

I am not sure credit card fraud is innocent pranks or misbehavior... I can tell you with certainty that most teenagers have never committed that sort of crimes tbh.

kingkawn 4y ago

Here’s your merit badge for pedantry

samtheDamned 4y ago

You'd be surprised..

stavros 4y ago

Not for lack of trying.

Jerrrry 4y ago

Always-online teenagers are a different demographic than your "average" teenager. the highs of an exploit working or a bypass make drugs look like candy.

williamcotton 4y ago

If we’re talking about the AOHell era of the mid 90s then I have anecdotal evidence that the majority of kids I knew were committing some kind of wire fraud in exchange for internet access! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOHell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOHell

toss1 4y ago

Said the one who clearly missed out....

samstave 4y ago

Credit card fraud was really common in the 80 among "hacker" types. I knew of several in Lake Tahoe that were high-school kids at the time in the late 80s - someohow managed to get credit cards and would order deliveries to "vacation homes" in lake tahoe where they knew the owners lived in the bay area and wouldnt be at the house - and would have things dropped off to the vacant houses to go get them. Also, in 1980 - we had a payphone inside our home in Tahoe. I didnt know this was an odd thing to have until much later.

watwut 4y ago
Late 1980 was when criminality was going up and right before its peak. It is quite lower now ... and people who were teenagers in late 1980 are almost 60 now.
- chowchowchow 4y ago
  Check your math on that one. More like 50 +/- a few years.
- samstave 4y ago
  Im 47. Started Highschool in 1989
  - samstave 4y ago
    Also, I have been using computers since 1984... Online since 1993.

cortesoft 4y ago

All credit card fraud is not created equal. He didn't steal any physical goods, nor did he steal anyone's credit card. He stole some hours of internet connection, which probably didn't cost the ISP that much. Not saying it is totally fine, but it really isn't that bad.

jhgb 4y ago

While in general I'm tempted to agree with you, if anyone deserves it, it's probably telcos anyway.