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The problem is I feel the same way about your side, and even worse really. You're trying to take away my guns while leaving it for people that can afford securi

The problem is I feel the same way about your side, and even worse really. You're trying to take away my guns while leaving it for people that can afford security. You're trying to talk to my kids about sensitive sexual issues at crazy young ages. You're trying to make it harder for my kids to get jobs or go to college because they were born a certain color. You're trying to make it harder to lock people away for major property crimes. You're trying to make it easier for undocumented people to come to the US instead of being selective like even Canada is. I could go on and on, but I think the things the left is doing is flat out dangerous to society, while what the right does is maybe mean spirited sometimes but for the best.

eyelidlessness 4y ago
> You're trying to take away my guns while leaving it for people that can afford security. I mean this with a surprised but real sincerity. I’m a former gun rights advocate and this notion was a big reason why I was. Don’t get me wrong, I do want to selectively restrict gun access. I want to preserve it for hunters, and potentially for severe cases where individuals are acutely threatened. I don’t otherwise want private individuals or police or state organizations to have access. > You're trying to talk to my kids about sensitive sexual issues at crazy young ages. I understand the origin of this point but it doesn’t faze me. Know how I learned too early about sexual issues? My brand new step brother had been raped by his father who very much shares your views on this topic. He told me to warn me, at my mom’s wedding. That’s how I learned about sexual topics I wasn’t prepared for. His father had his record erased. My family kept it secret but I knew, every time it came up in hushed tones. Spare me keeping kids safe from talking about sex. > You're trying to make it harder for my kids to get jobs or go to college because they were born a certain color. I don’t know what this is even about, but I didn’t go to college so maybe enlighten me. > You're trying to make it harder to lock people away for major property crimes Not even slightly cheeky… huh??? > You're trying to make it easier for undocumented people to come to the US instead of being selective like even Canada is. This one you got right. I emphatically agree with this characterization of my position and think it’s understated. > I could go on and on, but I think the things the left is doing is flat out dangerous to society, while what the right does is maybe mean spirited sometimes but for the best. I don’t think I have any chance of convincing you otherwise, I just have years of witnessing and experiencing violence to the contrary. Violence mostly directed at people who just wanted to exist, many of them politically involved in nothing at all. My “side” isn’t what you think. My entire political focus has been centered around advocating for people who are harmed for no fault of their own.
- namecheapTA 4y ago
  Anecdotes about bad things that happen to some people aren't going to phase me and change my mind out about large scale systematic damage the left wants to do. Regardless though, my point is that there are 'sides' and 'groups' and thinking poorly about the other side isn't going to go away when someone running for president of the United States calls people basically evil. People on the right think that people on the left are naiive and foolish. People on the left think people on the right are evil. So if anything, the left is doing what this entire thread is about.
  - eyelidlessness 4y ago
    > aren't going to phase me and change my mind Already addressed that, try to keep up. > Regardless though, my point is that there are 'sides' and 'groups' and thinking poorly about the other side isn't going to go away when someone running for president of the United States calls people basically evil. There are sides. I don’t care for the good/evil distinction, but there is a clear conflict of values and it’s not going away with the actual president who doesn’t seem to muster any effort for the values he claims to represent. > People on the right think that people on the left are naiive and foolish. People on the left think people on the right are evil. So if anything, the left is doing what this entire thread is about. Looks like we’re discussing thoughtcrimes not facts. One participating party doing violence and the other perceiving them as resorting to violence isn’t equivalent harm done.
    - namecheapTA 4y ago
      Correct, the left is the one that does the violence. You can look at jails and murder stats for that if you like, but in general is pretty obvious who the very intolerant ones are and it's the left.
      - eyelidlessness 4y ago
        Please go on, I can find no evidence of your claim but I’m listening.

eyelidlessness 4y ago

> You're trying to take away my guns while leaving it for people that can afford security. I mean this with a surprised but real sincerity. I’m a former gun rights advocate and this notion was a big reason why I was. Don’t get me wrong, I do want to selectively restrict gun access. I want to preserve it for hunters, and potentially for severe cases where individuals are acutely threatened. I don’t otherwise want private individuals or police or state organizations to have access. > You're trying to talk to my kids about sensitive sexual issues at crazy young ages. I understand the origin of this point but it doesn’t faze me. Know how I learned too early about sexual issues? My brand new step brother had been raped by his father who very much shares your views on this topic. He told me to warn me, at my mom’s wedding. That’s how I learned about sexual topics I wasn’t prepared for. His father had his record erased. My family kept it secret but I knew, every time it came up in hushed tones. Spare me keeping kids safe from talking about sex. > You're trying to make it harder for my kids to get jobs or go to college because they were born a certain color. I don’t know what this is even about, but I didn’t go to college so maybe enlighten me. > You're trying to make it harder to lock people away for major property crimes Not even slightly cheeky… huh??? > You're trying to make it easier for undocumented people to come to the US instead of being selective like even Canada is. This one you got right. I emphatically agree with this characterization of my position and think it’s understated. > I could go on and on, but I think the things the left is doing is flat out dangerous to society, while what the right does is maybe mean spirited sometimes but for the best. I don’t think I have any chance of convincing you otherwise, I just have years of witnessing and experiencing violence to the contrary. Violence mostly directed at people who just wanted to exist, many of them politically involved in nothing at all. My “side” isn’t what you think. My entire political focus has been centered around advocating for people who are harmed for no fault of their own.

namecheapTA 4y ago
Anecdotes about bad things that happen to some people aren't going to phase me and change my mind out about large scale systematic damage the left wants to do. Regardless though, my point is that there are 'sides' and 'groups' and thinking poorly about the other side isn't going to go away when someone running for president of the United States calls people basically evil. People on the right think that people on the left are naiive and foolish. People on the left think people on the right are evil. So if anything, the left is doing what this entire thread is about.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  > aren't going to phase me and change my mind Already addressed that, try to keep up. > Regardless though, my point is that there are 'sides' and 'groups' and thinking poorly about the other side isn't going to go away when someone running for president of the United States calls people basically evil. There are sides. I don’t care for the good/evil distinction, but there is a clear conflict of values and it’s not going away with the actual president who doesn’t seem to muster any effort for the values he claims to represent. > People on the right think that people on the left are naiive and foolish. People on the left think people on the right are evil. So if anything, the left is doing what this entire thread is about. Looks like we’re discussing thoughtcrimes not facts. One participating party doing violence and the other perceiving them as resorting to violence isn’t equivalent harm done.
  - namecheapTA 4y ago
    Correct, the left is the one that does the violence. You can look at jails and murder stats for that if you like, but in general is pretty obvious who the very intolerant ones are and it's the left.
    - eyelidlessness 4y ago
      Please go on, I can find no evidence of your claim but I’m listening.