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>I've run into business that list their supported systems just based on what they test for I bet that Chase is probably using a FOSS library that didn't whitel
by neelc 4y ago
>I've run into business that list their supported systems just based on what they test for
I bet that Chase is probably using a FOSS library that didn't whitelist FreeBSD, but whitelisted Linux and Chrome OS, and that while Chase only tested Windows and Mac the real "supported" systems is the FOSS library.
They may claim "our website is working as designed" since it's a FOSS library or proprietary service outside Chase's control.
It's absurd if Chase wants to block FreeBSD, but easier to understand if a third-party service or library blocked BSD. Or maybe Chase expects BSD users to use user agent switchers.
Reminds me of an issue with CenturyLink, where it actually was the Calix ONT causing a TCP connection limit (and a JTAG cable solved with cloning the ONT).
I also remember when Verizon blocked Tor middle relay IPs from their website, but Verizon was very good in escalating it to the responsible security vendor.
>I think when you decide to use something like FreeBSD you also sign up dealing with some things like this.
That's true. I have met many software engineers who don't know what FreeBSD is, namely web developers. They can't test a system they have no clue about.
Many people inside Microsoft (where I work) know what FreeBSD is, but at smaller tech companies, they have no clue. They know about Linux, heck my high school economics teacher knows what Linux was. I could ask a few questions about Kubernetes and they could easily answer, but FreeBSD, and "what's that?"
>When I was younger I ran FreeBSD for a while, but as I got older it wasn't worth it to me.
I've run FreeBSD for many years, being a committer myself, but am getting more involved in the Android modding scene which makes me have to maintain a Linux partition. Not that I really did anything in the Android world yet, it could also fall of my radar and I give up, but still.
I boot into Linux LiveUSBs when I want to flash and root my Android phone, or install LineageOS, mainly since FreeBSD's adb package has been broken for years and I never bothered to fix it myself.
I can admit being a BSD user is tough. BSD is 10 years behind Linux and Windows in terms of polish, due to a small userbase. Sometimes I think about switching to Linux, but nothing ever comes of this.
On an old "free" ThinkPad picked from my workplace's recycling bin, FreeBSD runs perfectly, with blazing fast (meaning 150 Mbps real world) Wi-Fi. But on a $1500 HP Spectre, there are a couple of papercuts, mainly unreliable ADSL2+-speed Wi-Fi.
- al_borland 4y ago>It's absurd if Chase wants to block FreeBSD, but easier to understand if a third-party service or library blocked BSD. Or maybe Chase expects BSD users to use user agent switchers. I think the most likely explanation is that Chase never even considered FreeBSD as something they would need to support and it fall under "other". Even with Linux, I think once it gets beyond Ubuntu... maybe Fedora... the average person has pretty much exhausted their knowledge, unless they have actually spent time distro hopping. >I have met many software engineers who don't know what FreeBSD is, namely web developers. My knee-jerk reaction is to find that surprising, but with the way modern web development is, they don't care about the system at all. Compute is just compute. That's becoming even more abstracted as people move into containers. As a systems guy this has me thinking that I need to pivot; although I do know various languages, web dev, etc. I remember back in college I was messing around with every OS I could get running. I even tried out BeOS for a while. I've been thinking about trying TempleOS just out of fascination... not that it's anything I could run as a daily driver. It would mostly be just an interesting way to kill an afternoon or weekend, depending on how deep I go.