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Why would anyone have personal conversations on a platform which is linked to your work?

by dj_mc_merlin 4y ago

ajmurmann 4y ago
Because you might be friendly with coworkers and not always switch platform as the topic transitions.
- dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
  > not always switch platform as the topic transitions My point is, you totally should. I am friendly with my coworkers too, if I want to have a non "work-friendly" talk with them, we talk in the kitchen or at the pub. It baffles me that people would use a work provided form of communication and _not_ assume it's auditable in some way. edit: should clarify that my work is probably more calm than most and would probably not GAF about it regardless.. but it's just good opsec. Never write something down you wouldn't be comfortable having read out to you if it can be traced back to you.
  - ajmurmann 4y ago
    Your original question was about "personal conversations". I don't think all personal conversations fall into the category of things I wouldn't write down. If I remember that I need to ask my coworker about dietary restrictions for going out together on the weekend while we are talking about our db problems, I won't necessarily switch to Signal for that.
    - dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
      Then we misunderstood each other. In that case there is no need to change platforms at all -- no one is ever going to penalize you for talking about dietary restrictions or similar topics. If you want to talk about looking for jobs, how much you hate your wife, or what an asshole your boss is, that should obviously not be done in a way that it could ever be traced to you. Failing to do that makes the situation at least half your fault, what did you expect?
  - wardedVibe 4y ago
    They also built tools to detect when you're doing that
    - dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
      Unless they're recording my conversation at the pub I do not see how (very illegal where I live, I'm hoping illegal everywhere). Care to link an example?
      - bentcorner 4y ago
        I'm hoping the comment you're replying to is implying that if you switch to a non-work communication platform while still using corporate assets and infrastructure you can still be tracked, which makes perfect sense.
  - killjoywashere 4y ago
    You should read the report on Brett Goldstein: he was forced out of government for using signal.
  - yencabulator 4y ago
    It's more the delusion that you can casually maintain perfect opsec. People committing actual crimes regularly get caught by those slip-ups, of course you too will have slip-ups in your every day life.

Why would anyone have personal conversations on a platform which is linked to your work?

ajmurmann 4y ago

Because you might be friendly with coworkers and not always switch platform as the topic transitions.

dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
> not always switch platform as the topic transitions My point is, you totally should. I am friendly with my coworkers too, if I want to have a non "work-friendly" talk with them, we talk in the kitchen or at the pub. It baffles me that people would use a work provided form of communication and _not_ assume it's auditable in some way. edit: should clarify that my work is probably more calm than most and would probably not GAF about it regardless.. but it's just good opsec. Never write something down you wouldn't be comfortable having read out to you if it can be traced back to you.
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  Your original question was about "personal conversations". I don't think all personal conversations fall into the category of things I wouldn't write down. If I remember that I need to ask my coworker about dietary restrictions for going out together on the weekend while we are talking about our db problems, I won't necessarily switch to Signal for that.
  - dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
    Then we misunderstood each other. In that case there is no need to change platforms at all -- no one is ever going to penalize you for talking about dietary restrictions or similar topics. If you want to talk about looking for jobs, how much you hate your wife, or what an asshole your boss is, that should obviously not be done in a way that it could ever be traced to you. Failing to do that makes the situation at least half your fault, what did you expect?
- wardedVibe 4y ago
  They also built tools to detect when you're doing that
  - dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
    Unless they're recording my conversation at the pub I do not see how (very illegal where I live, I'm hoping illegal everywhere). Care to link an example?
    - bentcorner 4y ago
      I'm hoping the comment you're replying to is implying that if you switch to a non-work communication platform while still using corporate assets and infrastructure you can still be tracked, which makes perfect sense.
- killjoywashere 4y ago
  You should read the report on Brett Goldstein: he was forced out of government for using signal.
- yencabulator 4y ago
  It's more the delusion that you can casually maintain perfect opsec. People committing actual crimes regularly get caught by those slip-ups, of course you too will have slip-ups in your every day life.