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Sounds like a great way to attract mediocre talent and guarantee you won't get exceptional talent.
by tick_tock_tick 4y ago
Sounds like a great way to attract mediocre talent and guarantee you won't get exceptional talent.
- marcinzm 4y agoSo you're saying there's no exceptional talent in countries that generally have lower pay?
- potatototoo99 4y agoNo, he's saying they are probably pricing themselves out of the global talent pool, by only being competitive in the cheapest countries.
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- ceeplusplus 4y agoIt is generally the case that said exceptional talent has already immigrated to HCoL US areas like SF/NYC, or that there are immigration/timezone restrictions preventing them from being hired by companies. It is very rare that someone who is talented can't get hired for a rate that they are worth.
- Aaargh20318 4y agoYou are assuming that all people with exceptional talent value money over being near friends and family.
- UmbertoNoEco 4y agoThis is one of the most discriminatory posts I have ever read in this site and that's saying something.
- sidlls 4y agoThere’s nothing discriminatory about it. The comment isn’t saying non-whites or non-US workers are dumb or untalented; it’s saying that most of the more talented ones have relocated (emigrated) already.
- ascorbic 4y agoIt's implicitly saying that anyone in a low cost of living area must be less talented, because if they were talented then they would have emigrated.
- UmbertoNoEco 4y agoThis makes as much sense as saying all the nice Americans are the ones who decided to leave the US. But somehow that would be outrageous.
- andrew_ 4y agoYou are assuming that people with exceptional talent want to live in HCoL areas. Migration data over the last two years suggests that your opinion has holes.
- version_five 4y agoNo kidding, people seem to pretend supply and demand don't exist and they can just ignore market forces. This sort of populist first order thinking sounds good if you don't think about it very hard, but never actually works. They'll either waste money overpaying people (and go out of business or simply operate a charity if they have deep pockets) or underpaying and fail to attract competitive talent. Presumably it's all just for show anyway, whatever happens will be even less fair than if they just paid market wages for the work they wanted done
- hahaxdxd123 4y agoexceptional talent from wealthy countries* For entry-level American SWE pay, you could get the valedictorian from fairly high quality schools across the developing world and work them like dogs and they wouldn't complain. I think this makes sense given the following: 1) you think you can handle the distributed/async workforce 2) you are OK with having mediocre US talent (made up for by exceptional foreign talent) 3) you think they can make up for not being exposed to modern SWEngineering culture by just being better in {IQ, Work Ethic, etc.}
- fakethenews2022 4y agoSome of those people are willing to move to the US and get paid more than entry level American SWE pay.
- soneca 4y agoBut the US is not always willing to let those people in. Currently you have to get lucky on a lottery for example.
- hahaxdxd123 4y agoAnd I am willing to bet most don't because moving is a huge change in your life, the USA probably won't let you in, and being rich in a poor country isn't all that bad.