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Just admit that you hate America and by proxy you hate Ukrainians. You are not a libertarian. So is not your idol Chomsky. You are just an uninformed person w

Just admit that you hate America and by proxy you hate Ukrainians. You are not a libertarian. So is not your idol Chomsky. You are just an uninformed person who does not have any idea of the actual situation. You have absolutely no idea against what Ukrainians must stand. If you paid just a little bit of attention, you would advocate for sending more weapons and training such that Ukrainians could push Russian invasion out of Ukraine completely such that civilian suffering could end and would not lead to complete genocide. Maxim Katz has made nice video (he includes English subtitles in case you actually do not speak Russian). I linked to the most important part of it for you. Watch this, this section is only about 3 minutes long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaRUepc-7VQ&t=443s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaRUepc-7VQ&t=443s Now again, should Ukraine surrender to Russia? If you were libertarian, you would not advocate surrender to the most dangerous Fascist regimes of current time. But for some reason you do. Do you have an explanation for this? Again you have chosen the victim blaming with your Afghanistan example and somehow again favorable toward Russia. Somehow Russian military pretense that happened after they assassinated last elected Afghanistan president it is not a problem. Somehow Russian Army (lets be honest here, decorating it with words like Soviet does not make it less what it is, Russian army) killing civilians is not a problem. The problem is resistance to the killing. Somehow again everybody must surrender to Russia. I think you are indeed fairly consistent: US bad, Russia good, just like Chomsky. This is also the core idea of whataboutism: US bad, Russia good. Always, no mater what. It is not: US bad, Russia bad, no. I do not think that you have right to make decisions for the Ukrainian people. You are not the one. You do not know what they want. I admit that, I actually do not know what they really want. Perhaps they all want to die so it would be already over. Who knows? What you are instead doing is assuming that what people want is the opposite to Zelensky and Arestovych. Somehow people are tricked by them. Does it sound familiar? Does it sound exactly what Russia is claiming? I think it does. Why do you think Zelensky or Arestovych wanted war? It looks to me that for you preparations for the inevitable is wanting it. If you prepare for war, it must mean that you want it. Si vis pacem, para bellum has no meaning to you, I guess. The truth is, this war would be already long time over had Ukraine not prepared for the war. But it had. It must be incredibly inconvenient for the Russia supporters. Why did Ukraine just not lose? The war would be over, Russia would have just killed not much more than few 100k and not deported more than few 1000k, but the life would have gone on, the business would have gone on. With Russia of course, because Ukraine does not exist, it is a fake country.

EGreg 4y ago
I don't hate USA. I love the USA. It has some of the greatest freedoms of speech of any country. When you love your family, and it goes out and kills some people, you don't cricitize them, right? That would be unpatriotic and traitorous? That mentality is just like many Russians have. I don't care that it's my country, I will speak for humanity and the truth. Will you? Look, you will have to have more intellectual discipline / integrity and engage with people. I asked you specifically two questions, and you ignore them. Can you please answer them? Should I repost them? How about just one: how can one point out complete hypocrisy and double standards in frantic calls to action, without using "whataboutism"? > I think you are indeed fairly consistent: US bad, Russia good, just like Chomsky. No, my position is that USA, Russia and China are all empires, they're bad in some things and good in others. (Wow, shocking.) This is a rather reasonable position, and it only sounds to you like "US bad, Russia good" because your starting point is to barely notice any crimes by USA and its allies, and only by Russia. So literally any information that comes out of the real world will seem like it's written by a Russian bot. It is the "whataboutism" you fear. Chomsky probably has a similar position on condemning Russia, but spends most of his time criticizing USA because of the "Chomsky Principle". I actually criticized him for this in our latest interview. And I got him to condemn the Russian invasion which he likened to Hitler's and Stalin's invasion of Poland. Is that good enough for you? When it comes to Ukraine and USA, I pushed him as well in the most recent interview I have done with him last week: https://vimeo.com/713049567/07f9561d88 https://vimeo.com/713049567/07f9561d88 I disagree with Chomsky in other areas. I've had a debate with him on my show for example about how influence is a form of capital that he benefits from and he is part of the celebrity culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5mI6ClPGc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5mI6ClPGc > This is also the core idea of whataboutism: US bad, Russia good. Always, no mater what. It is not: US bad, Russia bad, no. That's a total straw man. If someone said this, then whataboutism would quickly slap them down and ask what about Russia leveling Grozny to the ground and killing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people, or leveling Homs and Aleppo to the ground. That is a whole other level of destruction. And Russia is responsible. Russia BAD, get it? But notice that in all those instances, you didn't even bother to comment too much about it, let alone call for complete ostracism of Russia from the world economy, politics, culture, etc. What Russia did in Chechnya is far bigger destruction and could literally be called a "genocide" of Chechens. But why didn't you post much about Syrians and Chechens? Let me tell you the uncomfortable truth: they are not White Europeans. So therefore their lives matter to you as much as Yemenites or Afghanis. Yes what about Yemenites, Chechens and Afghanis? Isn't it interesting that Russia was BAD and far WORSE back then, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, and the Afghan war a million people died, but somehow Russia wasn't banned from everything? So you see, whataboutism can even help you care about the other people that Russia attacked. So no, Russia not good. Russia bad. And China bad. And USA bad. But also good in other things. But you aren't getting the point. To you, anything deviating from complete and utter agreement with "USA good, Russia bad" is to be shut down and walked away from. No, I do not do victim blaming of Afghanistan. You again commit the same fallacy. I condemn Russia's invasion of Afghanistan. The question is, what can we do to prevent a million civilians from dying in senseless extended wars? Your answer is "never mind that, Russia bad! Let's send them weapons so they can keep fighting, oh those poor civilians, what was the name of their city again?" > Why do you think Zelensky or Arestovych wanted war? I don't think Zelensky did, I think Arestovych did. Why? Because he flat out says that's what he wants -- so that Ukraine won't get "absorbed" into Russia. He doesn't quite spell out this false dichotomy or what would be so bad about this "absorbing", he doesn't stop to think maybe he's wrong before torpedoing a diplomatic process ... because the civilians who will be dying in the war won't be him personally or his folks. That's what I'm talking about, politicians can sit in their comfortable chairs and order armies to kill each other, while civilians sit under bombs. Did you ever see Good Will Hunting rant to the NSA? Watch it. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75617/ https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75617/ In the peace process, one guy sent in the delegation by Zelensky was simply killed by Ukrainian SBU, on "suspicion of being a traitor". I am more informed than you think! When this war just broke out, I asked for an intro and spoke to David Arakhamia on Facebook and urged him to be serious and creative in the peace talks in Belarus. In case you don't know, Arakhamia became the most famous negotiator (the guy in the hat, who always said he wears the hat because he "doesn't respect" the peace process). You can see Ukrainians begging on his wall to make a peace deal. He paid lip service to it, but when it came to it, they met for 2 hours and bounced. Several times. And the civilians pay the price. Just like you are happy to send weapons of which nearly 100% will explode on Ukrainian soil and kill UKRAINIAN CIVILIANS. The people that I care about. The civilians. (not just in Ukraine but everywhere). And the people you claim to care about. Is there any number of civilians at which you'd draw the line and say ... maybe it's better to do diplomacy instead of pouring more weapons into the region? If you won't listen to me, listen to Interpol: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... Or listen to human rights organizations for years: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine/0000017f-e080-d7b2-a77f-e3870e1c0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/ri... But all you're doing is parroting propaganda that says, Ukraine's politicians are amazing, Azov are just patriots, USA is just a concerned bystander, and anything half the world population says that you don't like must be because they got a check from the Kremlin. Wow, those guys must be so rich, paying off half the world...

EGreg 4y ago

I don't hate USA. I love the USA. It has some of the greatest freedoms of speech of any country. When you love your family, and it goes out and kills some people, you don't cricitize them, right? That would be unpatriotic and traitorous? That mentality is just like many Russians have. I don't care that it's my country, I will speak for humanity and the truth. Will you? Look, you will have to have more intellectual discipline / integrity and engage with people. I asked you specifically two questions, and you ignore them. Can you please answer them? Should I repost them? How about just one: how can one point out complete hypocrisy and double standards in frantic calls to action, without using "whataboutism"? > I think you are indeed fairly consistent: US bad, Russia good, just like Chomsky. No, my position is that USA, Russia and China are all empires, they're bad in some things and good in others. (Wow, shocking.) This is a rather reasonable position, and it only sounds to you like "US bad, Russia good" because your starting point is to barely notice any crimes by USA and its allies, and only by Russia. So literally any information that comes out of the real world will seem like it's written by a Russian bot. It is the "whataboutism" you fear. Chomsky probably has a similar position on condemning Russia, but spends most of his time criticizing USA because of the "Chomsky Principle". I actually criticized him for this in our latest interview. And I got him to condemn the Russian invasion which he likened to Hitler's and Stalin's invasion of Poland. Is that good enough for you? When it comes to Ukraine and USA, I pushed him as well in the most recent interview I have done with him last week: https://vimeo.com/713049567/07f9561d88 https://vimeo.com/713049567/07f9561d88 I disagree with Chomsky in other areas. I've had a debate with him on my show for example about how influence is a form of capital that he benefits from and he is part of the celebrity culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5mI6ClPGc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5mI6ClPGc > This is also the core idea of whataboutism: US bad, Russia good. Always, no mater what. It is not: US bad, Russia bad, no. That's a total straw man. If someone said this, then whataboutism would quickly slap them down and ask what about Russia leveling Grozny to the ground and killing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people, or leveling Homs and Aleppo to the ground. That is a whole other level of destruction. And Russia is responsible. Russia BAD, get it? But notice that in all those instances, you didn't even bother to comment too much about it, let alone call for complete ostracism of Russia from the world economy, politics, culture, etc. What Russia did in Chechnya is far bigger destruction and could literally be called a "genocide" of Chechens. But why didn't you post much about Syrians and Chechens? Let me tell you the uncomfortable truth: they are not White Europeans. So therefore their lives matter to you as much as Yemenites or Afghanis. Yes what about Yemenites, Chechens and Afghanis? Isn't it interesting that Russia was BAD and far WORSE back then, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, and the Afghan war a million people died, but somehow Russia wasn't banned from everything? So you see, whataboutism can even help you care about the other people that Russia attacked. So no, Russia not good. Russia bad. And China bad. And USA bad. But also good in other things. But you aren't getting the point. To you, anything deviating from complete and utter agreement with "USA good, Russia bad" is to be shut down and walked away from. No, I do not do victim blaming of Afghanistan. You again commit the same fallacy. I condemn Russia's invasion of Afghanistan. The question is, what can we do to prevent a million civilians from dying in senseless extended wars? Your answer is "never mind that, Russia bad! Let's send them weapons so they can keep fighting, oh those poor civilians, what was the name of their city again?" > Why do you think Zelensky or Arestovych wanted war? I don't think Zelensky did, I think Arestovych did. Why? Because he flat out says that's what he wants -- so that Ukraine won't get "absorbed" into Russia. He doesn't quite spell out this false dichotomy or what would be so bad about this "absorbing", he doesn't stop to think maybe he's wrong before torpedoing a diplomatic process ... because the civilians who will be dying in the war won't be him personally or his folks. That's what I'm talking about, politicians can sit in their comfortable chairs and order armies to kill each other, while civilians sit under bombs. Did you ever see Good Will Hunting rant to the NSA? Watch it. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75617/ https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75617/ In the peace process, one guy sent in the delegation by Zelensky was simply killed by Ukrainian SBU, on "suspicion of being a traitor". I am more informed than you think! When this war just broke out, I asked for an intro and spoke to David Arakhamia on Facebook and urged him to be serious and creative in the peace talks in Belarus. In case you don't know, Arakhamia became the most famous negotiator (the guy in the hat, who always said he wears the hat because he "doesn't respect" the peace process). You can see Ukrainians begging on his wall to make a peace deal. He paid lip service to it, but when it came to it, they met for 2 hours and bounced. Several times. And the civilians pay the price. Just like you are happy to send weapons of which nearly 100% will explode on Ukrainian soil and kill UKRAINIAN CIVILIANS. The people that I care about. The civilians. (not just in Ukraine but everywhere). And the people you claim to care about. Is there any number of civilians at which you'd draw the line and say ... maybe it's better to do diplomacy instead of pouring more weapons into the region? If you won't listen to me, listen to Interpol: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... Or listen to human rights organizations for years: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine/0000017f-e080-d7b2-a77f-e3870e1c0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/ri... But all you're doing is parroting propaganda that says, Ukraine's politicians are amazing, Azov are just patriots, USA is just a concerned bystander, and anything half the world population says that you don't like must be because they got a check from the Kremlin. Wow, those guys must be so rich, paying off half the world...