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As someone with more than 20 years experience.. I always feared what you mentioned but your post made me question that fear. Small companies may hold it again

by ipaddr 4y ago

As someone with more than 20 years experience.. I always feared what you mentioned but your post made me question that fear. Small companies may hold it against you and you may never have a chance to work their again but what are the odds they have a matching role and would you ever apply again. The industry keeps getting bigger. I have never run into anyone I ever worked with in any other company. I don't think it really matters. The chances of seeing someone at a party or burning man or a ghost reference (they want your opinion on someone you never worked with?) is literally 0. If you told everyone/everywhere it would make people question you.. why doesn't this great candidate (you wanted to hire them) decide to back out. What is wrong with this manager/team.. bonus is if you are successful impacting their career they can personally sue and take everything you own.

hn_neverguess 4y ago
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- ipaddr 4y ago
  For most social media I go under a different name and never invite people I work with. For something like linkedin over the years the number of connections reaches thousands and any mutual connection will be connected to 2nd, 3rd headhunters. Trying to find the back channel person would be like whack a mole. If I work with 100-300 people over a 5 years period the number of new companies would be in the 10,000+ range. The growth has been crazy. Those reference checks target companies on your resume not positions you didn't accept. This is happening more often because of long hiring cycles where candidates invest so much time in multiple rounds that offers and deadlines often do not align. I use to be able to target one company and find out quickly (one interview, maybe a test) if there was an offer. It literally takes 4-8 rounds where any one round can knock you out. Having said that I've never pulled my acceptance. Once time I quit after the first day.. One small room that was so crowded it wasn't going to work (the interview happened elsewhere). The first few months are a trial for both parties.

by ipaddr 4y ago

hn_neverguess 4y ago

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ipaddr 4y ago
For most social media I go under a different name and never invite people I work with. For something like linkedin over the years the number of connections reaches thousands and any mutual connection will be connected to 2nd, 3rd headhunters. Trying to find the back channel person would be like whack a mole. If I work with 100-300 people over a 5 years period the number of new companies would be in the 10,000+ range. The growth has been crazy. Those reference checks target companies on your resume not positions you didn't accept. This is happening more often because of long hiring cycles where candidates invest so much time in multiple rounds that offers and deadlines often do not align. I use to be able to target one company and find out quickly (one interview, maybe a test) if there was an offer. It literally takes 4-8 rounds where any one round can knock you out. Having said that I've never pulled my acceptance. Once time I quit after the first day.. One small room that was so crowded it wasn't going to work (the interview happened elsewhere). The first few months are a trial for both parties.