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Rescinding offers is REDICULOUS. I don't care what the business case is, how can you have had such a short planning horizon that you were making offers and the

Rescinding offers is REDICULOUS. I don't care what the business case is, how can you have had such a short planning horizon that you were making offers and then rescinding them before folks start? Let them start, they will see writing on wall and can start looking for a new place with an active job.

eqmvii 4y ago
Tons of law firms did this in 08 and 09. Those with the ability to choose often chose other firms when hiring got back on track later.
diehunde 4y ago
That's why I never recommend delaying the starting date too much. I've seen people accepting offers and giving crazy starting dates (like 3 or 4 months). Too much can happen in between.
- onphonenow 4y ago
  That's on employee a bit then. But we'd get the HR managers complaining if employees accepted offers and then ghosted, so we should complain about employers doing this. Crazy they can't even afford to give folks a 6 month slot in a "gardening" type position. Be upfront. Hey, we're hurting, we can keep you for 6 months or so, no expectation on work output, but growth trajectory is going to be limited and a RIF is possible so may not be a bad idea to look for next spot.
- Matthias247 4y ago
  Note that in Europe (e.g. Germany) a typical notice period can be 3 month. So some people don't even have the option to start faster.
  - diehunde 4y ago
    I didn't know that. I started a new job three months ago in the US, and I had to negotiate because they wanted me to start in 2 weeks and I wanted a month. They told me three weeks was a hard limit.
  - ApolloFortyNine 4y ago
    At least in the US, they can say that, and maybe they will throw you in the "do not hire back", but you could give 0 days notices legally. "Right to work" goes both ways.
- CydeWeys 4y ago
  This is why every time I've left a job, my last day at my previous job was Friday and the first day at my next job was Monday. There's something deeply stressful to me about being unemployed. I'd much rather take a stress-free paid vacation on holiday leave than just be unemployed and have things potentially up in the air.
  - rahimnathwani 4y ago
    That doesn't eliminate the gap between the date you sign the contract and the date you start your new job. Unless you can quit without giving notice.
shrimpx 4y ago
A rescinded offer is basically equivalent to getting laid off immediately. Honestly I’d rather get a rescinded offer than a layoff 3 months into the job.
adrr 4y ago
They don’t want to pay unemployment benefits.

eqmvii 4y ago

Tons of law firms did this in 08 and 09. Those with the ability to choose often chose other firms when hiring got back on track later.

diehunde 4y ago

That's why I never recommend delaying the starting date too much. I've seen people accepting offers and giving crazy starting dates (like 3 or 4 months). Too much can happen in between.

onphonenow 4y ago
That's on employee a bit then. But we'd get the HR managers complaining if employees accepted offers and then ghosted, so we should complain about employers doing this. Crazy they can't even afford to give folks a 6 month slot in a "gardening" type position. Be upfront. Hey, we're hurting, we can keep you for 6 months or so, no expectation on work output, but growth trajectory is going to be limited and a RIF is possible so may not be a bad idea to look for next spot.
Matthias247 4y ago
Note that in Europe (e.g. Germany) a typical notice period can be 3 month. So some people don't even have the option to start faster.
- diehunde 4y ago
  I didn't know that. I started a new job three months ago in the US, and I had to negotiate because they wanted me to start in 2 weeks and I wanted a month. They told me three weeks was a hard limit.
- ApolloFortyNine 4y ago
  At least in the US, they can say that, and maybe they will throw you in the "do not hire back", but you could give 0 days notices legally. "Right to work" goes both ways.
CydeWeys 4y ago
This is why every time I've left a job, my last day at my previous job was Friday and the first day at my next job was Monday. There's something deeply stressful to me about being unemployed. I'd much rather take a stress-free paid vacation on holiday leave than just be unemployed and have things potentially up in the air.
- rahimnathwani 4y ago
  That doesn't eliminate the gap between the date you sign the contract and the date you start your new job. Unless you can quit without giving notice.

shrimpx 4y ago

A rescinded offer is basically equivalent to getting laid off immediately. Honestly I’d rather get a rescinded offer than a layoff 3 months into the job.

adrr 4y ago

They don’t want to pay unemployment benefits.