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So the Govt doesnt always know who owns bits of land, there are companies who make it their business like this website to find out who owns what and they are us

So the Govt doesnt always know who owns bits of land, there are companies who make it their business like this website to find out who owns what and they are used by supermarkets and other property related businesses for land bank purposes. One of the biggest databases of who owns what in this country belongs to a company not far from Swindon! If you are a landowner, one of the ways to reduce your tax bill is to work with your neighbouring landowners, so a trust owns the land and it "gifts" some land, like a field to another trust in return for services previously undertaken. The point being there is no monetary value exchange, ie its not taxable. The only people who know about the arrangement will be the two trusts and the accountancy firm(s), and it will be a big name accountancy firm most of the time. I legally purchased this data from one landowner who relied on an inferior IT company to wipe their computers before reselling them as secondhand, and I simply restored all their data which is how I found out about the above. Ironically the Queen is a neighbour! Other ways to reduce your tax bill is to say to the taxman, you have no money, but I have some antiques like a suit of armour or something historically of "national" interest I can offer as payment instead, HMRC will get the National Trust in to valuate it, HMRC say yes or no, and then on paper said antique is now owned by the National Trust. However the NT will say its best kept in its existing surroundings so keep hold of it for us, and we will pay you to look after it! You can spot some of these people because they have to open up their property at least one day a year to the public. It can be quite lucrative having the NT maintaining the upkeep of your family estate during lean times!

henrikschroder 4y ago
> So the Govt doesnt always know who owns bits of land This is completely bonkers to me. Isn't this the main purpose of government? Of a nation? How can you defend property rights without having some kind of authority that knows who owns a certain property? And from some kind of IT perspective, keeping a national computer database of property ownership is trivial, has been trivial for decades, and a paper-based database has been trivial for centuries? > One of the biggest databases of who owns what in this country belongs to a company not far from Swindon! And you're not nationalizing this because...?
- Terry_Roll 4y ago
  > This is completely bonkers to me. So you need to look into the City of London, the Magna Carta, the Remembrancer and realise that the UK is the only parliament where an unelected body can veto everything Parliament votes on! That is the power of the City of London, but it doesnt advertise this fact for obvious reasons, but its why this country holds onto to its ceremonies so much. > How can you defend property rights without having some kind of authority that knows who owns a certain property? So the City & Guilds is a City of London thing, and tradespeople have been used for hundreds of years to act like a secret army. Well its the tradespeople who do the City of London's bidding because a master tradesman can introduce planned obsolescence into pretty much any work carried out. For example, a plumber could leave some flux on a copper pipe and over the years this will corrode into a tiny pinhole where water drips out and slowly ruins a part of the property. Now are you going to inspect every inch of copper pipping in your house? The plumber will have had their money and long since gone. You get another plumber in, they identify the problem and repair it typically without explaining how or why it happened. These are tricks of the trade which get used for repeat business. The best one's are listed on the stock markets! Some renters may be more familiar with saturated animal fats left down the sink when leaving, pretty much everyone who is good at their job has some sort of malicious compliance, and you can read about that on Reddit. Now the beauty of all this is, some problems are actually red flags but you wont always know they are a red flag. Its like a form of stealth communication in plain sight and free speech is a licence to gossip and gossiping involves rumours which can be used to inflict psychological harm on their victims. Its surprising what the law does not allow as evidence in court. >And you're not nationalizing this because...? You obviously dont know how whistle-blowers get treated. I'm sure you are familiar with the phrase "accidents happen"? One of my first lessons as a kid given to me was keep my mouth shut by pain of death. However it would be remiss of me to not point out that Govt NHS, Military & Police are not engaged in their own forms of criminality as well.

henrikschroder 4y ago

> So the Govt doesnt always know who owns bits of land This is completely bonkers to me. Isn't this the main purpose of government? Of a nation? How can you defend property rights without having some kind of authority that knows who owns a certain property? And from some kind of IT perspective, keeping a national computer database of property ownership is trivial, has been trivial for decades, and a paper-based database has been trivial for centuries? > One of the biggest databases of who owns what in this country belongs to a company not far from Swindon! And you're not nationalizing this because...?

Terry_Roll 4y ago
> This is completely bonkers to me. So you need to look into the City of London, the Magna Carta, the Remembrancer and realise that the UK is the only parliament where an unelected body can veto everything Parliament votes on! That is the power of the City of London, but it doesnt advertise this fact for obvious reasons, but its why this country holds onto to its ceremonies so much. > How can you defend property rights without having some kind of authority that knows who owns a certain property? So the City & Guilds is a City of London thing, and tradespeople have been used for hundreds of years to act like a secret army. Well its the tradespeople who do the City of London's bidding because a master tradesman can introduce planned obsolescence into pretty much any work carried out. For example, a plumber could leave some flux on a copper pipe and over the years this will corrode into a tiny pinhole where water drips out and slowly ruins a part of the property. Now are you going to inspect every inch of copper pipping in your house? The plumber will have had their money and long since gone. You get another plumber in, they identify the problem and repair it typically without explaining how or why it happened. These are tricks of the trade which get used for repeat business. The best one's are listed on the stock markets! Some renters may be more familiar with saturated animal fats left down the sink when leaving, pretty much everyone who is good at their job has some sort of malicious compliance, and you can read about that on Reddit. Now the beauty of all this is, some problems are actually red flags but you wont always know they are a red flag. Its like a form of stealth communication in plain sight and free speech is a licence to gossip and gossiping involves rumours which can be used to inflict psychological harm on their victims. Its surprising what the law does not allow as evidence in court. >And you're not nationalizing this because...? You obviously dont know how whistle-blowers get treated. I'm sure you are familiar with the phrase "accidents happen"? One of my first lessons as a kid given to me was keep my mouth shut by pain of death. However it would be remiss of me to not point out that Govt NHS, Military & Police are not engaged in their own forms of criminality as well.