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How are you using "far left" in this instance?

upsidesinclude 4y ago
To the left of progressive Democrat and then farther still Edit: clearly the down votes don't seem to see the context wherein OP has described the commenter. My post is not an opinion, it's the contextual position given by the OP. But by all means downvote away per your bias. Thanks Mods
- linkingday 4y ago
  what if I told you that Democrats aren't even on the left, when it comes to the rest of the world?
  - teakettle42 4y ago
    It’d suggest that you’re viewing the world from a radically far left perspective.
    - linkingday 4y ago
      or...from the perspective that much of Europe views it. American politics is bunk, bought and sold by corporations that think of nothing but profit, by design. literally a country where bribery is legal and encouraged
    - JaimeThompson 4y ago
      Is one on the "radical left" if they think LGBTQ people should be able to get married, that the non-religious / non-Christians should have equal rights? This is a serious question, not a troll. I ask it because the "conservative" party in the US explicitly is against such things in their platform documents. It's rather strange to me that it is so hard for the term "radical left" to be defined in any sort of objective way, often it seems no definition is available at all which makes discussions about the topics hard to have.
      - PraetorianGourd 4y ago
        LGBTQ people can get married federally, and there is no serious effort to reverse that. It is disingenuous to use marriage rights as a litmus test because whether one morally supports it is irrelevant under the law. What rights do Christians have over others?
        JaimeThompson 4y ago
        Please see my response to teakettle42 in this thread.
      - teakettle42 4y ago
        > Is one on the "radical left" if they think LGBTQ people should be able to get married, that the non-religious / non-Christians should have equal rights? This is a serious question, not a troll. No, that is not “radically far left.” In 2019, according to Pew Research, 44% of “Republicans and Republican leaners” supported same-sex marriage. As for your question about equal rights for “non-religious / non-Christians”, I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Can you elaborate? > I ask it because the "conservative" party in the US explicitly is against such things in their platform documents. I assume you’re referring to the Republican Party platform document? It’s quite large; can you identify the portions you’re specifically referring to?
        JaimeThompson 4y ago
        Source is here https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 P18 in the PDF (p11 as per the included numbering) condemns and calls for the reversal of both US vs Windsor & Obergefell v Hodges as well as calls for marriage to be between one man and one women only. P 19/12 calls for special rights to worship "God" which is the Christian god in this context, it doesn't call for the same rights for other religious beliefs. It all calls out for special rights to display the Ten Commandments but not other religious artifacts / documents.
        4y ago
  - upsidesinclude 4y ago
    The rest of the world isn't leading the world. Besides your comment being some broad generalization, it fails to assert the reality of the 'world' and in its place takes a group of progressive first world countries which align with liberal politics. The world includes such places as India, Pakistan, Africa and China, oh my, where liberal ideology is a far cry from what you are describing
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  - MockObject 4y ago
    It's irrelevant, because we're discussing an American network.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Too the left of progressive Democrat and then farther still CNN is not to the left of progressive Democrats. It's not even to the left of the neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party.
zmgsabst 4y ago
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- sbf501 4y ago
- JaimeThompson 4y ago
  > calling leftists rioting and committing arson “mostly peaceful” What they said was “FIERY BUT MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS AFTER POLICE SHOOTING" according to the link you provided. The vast majority of those involved in the protect didn't commit crimes, correct?
  - teakettle42 4y ago
    It’s telling that when the favored side has protests fraught with arson, destruction, violence, and even multiple deaths, it’s “mostly peaceful” and “the vast majority didn’t commit crimes”. Whereas when a single act of violence occurs on the disfavored side, that’s used to paint the entire protest as violent, and indeed, the entire disfavored political demographic as irredeemable. The double standard is exceedingly clear.
  - scarmig 4y ago
- arrrg 4y ago
  That‘s partisan, not left.
- linkingday 4y ago
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To the left of progressive Democrat and then farther still Edit: clearly the down votes don't seem to see the context wherein OP has described the commenter. My post is not an opinion, it's the contextual position given by the OP. But by all means downvote away per your bias. Thanks Mods

linkingday 4y ago
what if I told you that Democrats aren't even on the left, when it comes to the rest of the world?
- teakettle42 4y ago
  It’d suggest that you’re viewing the world from a radically far left perspective.
  - linkingday 4y ago
    or...from the perspective that much of Europe views it. American politics is bunk, bought and sold by corporations that think of nothing but profit, by design. literally a country where bribery is legal and encouraged
  - JaimeThompson 4y ago
    Is one on the "radical left" if they think LGBTQ people should be able to get married, that the non-religious / non-Christians should have equal rights? This is a serious question, not a troll. I ask it because the "conservative" party in the US explicitly is against such things in their platform documents. It's rather strange to me that it is so hard for the term "radical left" to be defined in any sort of objective way, often it seems no definition is available at all which makes discussions about the topics hard to have.
    - PraetorianGourd 4y ago
      LGBTQ people can get married federally, and there is no serious effort to reverse that. It is disingenuous to use marriage rights as a litmus test because whether one morally supports it is irrelevant under the law. What rights do Christians have over others?
      - JaimeThompson 4y ago
        Please see my response to teakettle42 in this thread.
    - teakettle42 4y ago
      > Is one on the "radical left" if they think LGBTQ people should be able to get married, that the non-religious / non-Christians should have equal rights? This is a serious question, not a troll. No, that is not “radically far left.” In 2019, according to Pew Research, 44% of “Republicans and Republican leaners” supported same-sex marriage. As for your question about equal rights for “non-religious / non-Christians”, I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Can you elaborate? > I ask it because the "conservative" party in the US explicitly is against such things in their platform documents. I assume you’re referring to the Republican Party platform document? It’s quite large; can you identify the portions you’re specifically referring to?
      - JaimeThompson 4y ago
        Source is here https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 P18 in the PDF (p11 as per the included numbering) condemns and calls for the reversal of both US vs Windsor & Obergefell v Hodges as well as calls for marriage to be between one man and one women only. P 19/12 calls for special rights to worship "God" which is the Christian god in this context, it doesn't call for the same rights for other religious beliefs. It all calls out for special rights to display the Ten Commandments but not other religious artifacts / documents.
        4y ago
- upsidesinclude 4y ago
  The rest of the world isn't leading the world. Besides your comment being some broad generalization, it fails to assert the reality of the 'world' and in its place takes a group of progressive first world countries which align with liberal politics. The world includes such places as India, Pakistan, Africa and China, oh my, where liberal ideology is a far cry from what you are describing
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- MockObject 4y ago
  It's irrelevant, because we're discussing an American network.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Too the left of progressive Democrat and then farther still CNN is not to the left of progressive Democrats. It's not even to the left of the neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party.

zmgsabst 4y ago

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sbf501 4y ago
JaimeThompson 4y ago
> calling leftists rioting and committing arson “mostly peaceful” What they said was “FIERY BUT MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS AFTER POLICE SHOOTING" according to the link you provided. The vast majority of those involved in the protect didn't commit crimes, correct?
- teakettle42 4y ago
  It’s telling that when the favored side has protests fraught with arson, destruction, violence, and even multiple deaths, it’s “mostly peaceful” and “the vast majority didn’t commit crimes”. Whereas when a single act of violence occurs on the disfavored side, that’s used to paint the entire protest as violent, and indeed, the entire disfavored political demographic as irredeemable. The double standard is exceedingly clear.
- scarmig 4y ago
arrrg 4y ago
That‘s partisan, not left.
linkingday 4y ago
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