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Yeah, me too. I'm not interested in the opinions of people who really just seem be saying the same vague shit over and over again. What's the deal with these ve

Yeah, me too. I'm not interested in the opinions of people who really just seem be saying the same vague shit over and over again. What's the deal with these venture capitalists giving us advice? We're just normal people trying to start off companies and ideas, if you want to tell us shit, tell us shit that we can use. Tell us how to market, how to sell, how to get good feedback from users. Don't keep telling us how to talk to venture capitalists and what not. It's depressing. This place is a graveyard of hope - everyone here seems to be trying, and everyone seems to be advising - but nobody seems to be succeeding. And those companies that do succeed, hell, you never see them here. This is a collection of dreamers and people hoping for that big million payout. If I'm going to fail, I'll fail with dignity trying to sell things that people want to buy.

nostrademons 19y ago
"And those companies that do succeed, hell, you never see them here." Well...whaddaya expect? They're too busy coding their startups to post on a glorified message board. That's probably also behind the dropoff in activity - many of the top posters here got into the SFP, so they're now hard at work on their projects. I'll probably stick around here as long as I still have my day job. Can't really work on the startup at work without jeopardizing the IP, so I might as well at least learn about startups in my downtime. But there's eventually a time when you've learned everything you're gonna get off the web and just have to go for it and try...
- edw519 19y ago
  "Can't really work on the startup at work without jeopardizing the IP" 1. Take the first word of that sentence out of your vocabulary. 2. Work at night. Forget about what might go wrong and imagine the possibilities. There. You just won half the battle. Just my 2 cents.
  - jsjenkins168 19y ago
    Agree with point 2 (I'm all about coding all night), but 1 isn't a good idea.. If your IP agreement doesnt already claim ownership over your work inside and outside work, it definitely will at least claim what you do during work hours. Thats a quick way to lose your job, get blacklisted from other companies, and lose legal ownership over your startup..
    - edw519 19y ago
      Agreed. My solution: don't EVER sign ANY agreement that dictates who owns what you do on your own time. Not sure? Get a lawyer. Still not sure? Take another job. (Aside: didn't Lincoln outlaw this in 1863?)
      - jsjenkins168 19y ago
        I actually asked this question a while back and got some good responses if you're interested: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7298 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7298
      - gleb 19y ago
        And that, my friend, is why you want to live in California, where the law preempts the employer from claiming ownership of work done on your own time. California Labor Code Section 2870: http://www.unixguru.com/california_law.html http://www.unixguru.com/california_law.html
- Readmore 19y ago
  That's very true, I used to read and post here much more when I had to be at work all day. Since I quit to work on my startup I don't have nearly to same amount of time. There is a essay I've been meaning to write about taking the plunge and quitting the day job but I don't really have time to sit down and do it.
juwo 19y ago
"This place is a graveyard of hope - everyone here seems to be trying, and everyone seems to be advising - but nobody seems to be succeeding. " I like that. Goodbye, maxklein :)
pg 19y ago
Speak for yourself. The users of this site include the founders of 3 startups from YC alone who've been acquired for multiple millions. Plus a number of more famous founders I don't want to out, but whom you can often recognize from their usernames.

nostrademons 19y ago

"And those companies that do succeed, hell, you never see them here." Well...whaddaya expect? They're too busy coding their startups to post on a glorified message board. That's probably also behind the dropoff in activity - many of the top posters here got into the SFP, so they're now hard at work on their projects. I'll probably stick around here as long as I still have my day job. Can't really work on the startup at work without jeopardizing the IP, so I might as well at least learn about startups in my downtime. But there's eventually a time when you've learned everything you're gonna get off the web and just have to go for it and try...

edw519 19y ago
"Can't really work on the startup at work without jeopardizing the IP" 1. Take the first word of that sentence out of your vocabulary. 2. Work at night. Forget about what might go wrong and imagine the possibilities. There. You just won half the battle. Just my 2 cents.
- jsjenkins168 19y ago
  Agree with point 2 (I'm all about coding all night), but 1 isn't a good idea.. If your IP agreement doesnt already claim ownership over your work inside and outside work, it definitely will at least claim what you do during work hours. Thats a quick way to lose your job, get blacklisted from other companies, and lose legal ownership over your startup..
  - edw519 19y ago
    Agreed. My solution: don't EVER sign ANY agreement that dictates who owns what you do on your own time. Not sure? Get a lawyer. Still not sure? Take another job. (Aside: didn't Lincoln outlaw this in 1863?)
    - jsjenkins168 19y ago
      I actually asked this question a while back and got some good responses if you're interested: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7298 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7298
    - gleb 19y ago
      And that, my friend, is why you want to live in California, where the law preempts the employer from claiming ownership of work done on your own time. California Labor Code Section 2870: http://www.unixguru.com/california_law.html http://www.unixguru.com/california_law.html
Readmore 19y ago
That's very true, I used to read and post here much more when I had to be at work all day. Since I quit to work on my startup I don't have nearly to same amount of time. There is a essay I've been meaning to write about taking the plunge and quitting the day job but I don't really have time to sit down and do it.

juwo 19y ago

"This place is a graveyard of hope - everyone here seems to be trying, and everyone seems to be advising - but nobody seems to be succeeding. " I like that. Goodbye, maxklein :)

pg 19y ago

Speak for yourself. The users of this site include the founders of 3 startups from YC alone who've been acquired for multiple millions. Plus a number of more famous founders I don't want to out, but whom you can often recognize from their usernames.