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You had me until that example. There is no way I will ever trust Microsoft. Nothing is clear about Microsoft embracing open source. Github isn’t open source.
by mulmen 4y ago
You had me until that example. There is no way I will ever trust Microsoft.
Nothing is clear about Microsoft embracing open source. Github isn’t open source. Neither is Windows, SQL Server, or Office. And I’m not thrilled about their involvement with Linux. EEE is in their blood.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, you’re Microsoft.
- margalabargala 4y agoI'm not surprised that there are people with this view, but I can't agree. They've had 4 years to ruin github, and haven't. Open-sourcing .NET Core, VS Code, powershell, etc and actively creating/supporting WSL is a huge change from their behavior in the 90s. I don't use any of their software, but watching from a distance they appear to have been moving in a "good" direction for the last decade.
- mulmen 4y agoThe problem with Microsoft isn’t the licensing. It’s the constant quest for control and the abuse of power. Look at Windows 10 dark patterns. I prefer that the organization responsible for those abuses stays away from Linux, and anything else I actually use.
- margalabargala 4y agoI don't think Microsoft is a "good" company. Agree with all the Win10 dark patterns, not to mention news like this from today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31600848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31600848 As you say, the problem with Microsoft isn't the licensing. 25 years ago, licensing was among the problems with Microsoft. Today it is not. This is an aspect of Microsoft changing, for the better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_open_source#Initial_stance_on_open_source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_open_source#Init...
- jstummbillig 4y agoIf there is nothing that could ever convince you, you will be increasingly wrong and ignorable. I don't know why anyone would willfully choose obsolescence and wear it as a badge of honor.
- fleddr 4y agoMicrosoft hasn't changed. Install Windows freshly, lots of intentionally misleading privacy options. Edge is increasing its tactics to get you to set it as the default browser. Including Teams with a package people paid for anyway (Office 365) to try and take out Slack. VSCode, Github as on-ramp into paid Github and Azure Devops. Same old, same old.