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Remove YC “[company] is hiring” ads on HN
- ignoramous 4y agoI won't block 'em, but tbh, some of the titles are real cringe, which is a good indicator for who to avoid, I guess.
- bombcar 4y agoI like the ones who continue to appear for ages - I wonder if BuildZoom will ever get that engineer!
- Risse 4y agoOr Flexport
- throwaway1777 4y agoMaybe they are hiring multiple engineers
- DoctorOW 4y agoI don't think so
- andrew_ 4y agohah. put OneSignal in that batch as well.
- KMnO4 4y agoAs someone who works with OneSignal’s product... can a competent engineer apply there PLEASE?
- ignoramous 4y agoPlot twist: They're all competent. Tear down that interview wall...
- dang 4y agoIt's on my list to do more about the bad titles. We do fix them when we see them. We also tell the startups not to do that: https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html. If an irritating one shows up, you (or anyone) are welcome to give us a heads-up at hn@ycombinator.com.
- ignoramous 4y agoThanks. Titles that I find bad may be very subjective, so I'd do good to keep them to myself, I'd have thought. The next time, I'll report when I come across them, but know that most of us on news.yc drink a lot of kool-aid and live in a bubble of our own (:
- seydor 4y agoThat s quite the overreaction
- d23 4y agoSeriously. I feel like I've seen... three of these. They're about as unintrusive as it gets.
- version_five 4y agoThe hiring posts don't bother me at all. But I certainly have personal hangups about silly things that bother me to the point of distraction, even in small quantities. For example if an article has an animated gif in it, I literally can't read it once I've seen it. So I can understand why some people might get put off by something seemingly minor. And making a blocker is a good solution, even if very niche.
- pvg 4y agoYou can also just hit 'hide' on any post which has the benefit of also give you a new front page story.
- CedarMills 4y agoI almost wish they were in italics or something.
- 0des 4y agoOr a different color
- bobobob420 4y agoThank you for making this. One of the worst parts about hacker news
- hkgjjgjfjfjfjf 4y ago
- dmead 4y agoHow about a firefox version?
- dorianmariefr 4y agoIt's an userscript, there are userscript extensions on Firefox e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tampermonkey/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tampermonkey/
- oh_sigh 4y agoI think at the very least comments should be allowed on those posts, even if only by high karma accounts to lessen the number of trolls.
- 0des 4y agoThat's not a great idea, some of the folks here with the most karma are just familiar names who talk the most like myself, they don't always have great opinions.
- oh_sigh 4y agoI agree, I'm probably in the same boat with 5000+ karma but for the most part worthless comments and oftentimes getting yelled at by dang, but some filtering would be better than none at all. My guess is that companies don't want people to comment on their posts because of fear of the conversation turning extremely negative, since probably most people to comment would be people who have a bone to pick for some reason. I notice that reddit also doesn't allow commenting on their ads, even though the ads present themselves for the most part as just another post(just like hn)
- easrng 4y agoI've seen reddit ads with comments enabled, I think it's an option.
- wheybags 4y agoI'm honestly fine with them. These posts are the reason this site gets to exist without needing some other more nefarious monetisation. Ads can be a lot worse...
- threatofrain 4y agoDoes anyone have a knowledgeable story for what YC sees HN as? Without knowing that, it's difficult to say why this site gets to exist.
- dang 4y agoI wrote about it here (ignore the first half of the post): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23285793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23285793 Similar other past comments: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=yc%20business%20interests%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- tmp_anon_22 4y agoIt makes sense to me that most YC Big Wigs would be indifferent towards HN, but will quickly come down on it if their preferred companies are getting lambasted by comments on their own website. Probably best to not shake the pot.
- AustinDev 4y agoCan we get comments enabled on them? I'd be interested to see what other people have to say about the companies. I think it'd be an interesting compromise. They don't really bother me either way.
- ccrush 4y agoComments are disabled because many startups are terrible employers and having those reviews right next to the ads would kill revenue for HN. Can't have the truth interfere with the business model.
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- yamrzou 4y agoLook, you can make and use whatever extension you like. But, posting something like this here, is a lack of respect for this website and its community. Because the visibility that these posts get are the least we can offer to this forum for what it gives us. And you can simply hide them.
- threatofrain 4y agoI'm not sure how meaningful it is to ask an author who proclaims to not use HN to comport their attitude or behavior to your understanding of respecting HN. But I see this as well within the bounds of HN community spirit — IMO the heart of hacking was originally more about defying authority or boundaries than entrepreneurial or industry interest.
- schmookeeg 4y agoThis resonates with me. I appreciate HN enough to at least consider the YC offerings when they appear. ...And one of my worst/most insulting interview experiences was with a YC company. Tis the reason for the season and all that. :)
- 0des 4y agoI am curious if none of you use an ad blocker, ever.
- dang 4y agoUsers flagged this. I've removed the flags now, in keeping with the principle that we moderate HN less, not more, when YC is the story: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20%22less%2C%20not%20more%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- 0des 4y agoA helpful middleground is to allow us to comment on these threads. Some of these companies are undesirable for various reasons and for the community to be precluded from discussing their experiences, but only when its a YC company, is disingenuous, and renders the parent comment questionable. We talk about all manner of companies here. Why is a YC company immune from discourse? Fairness is when every post is treated the same.
- pvg 4y agoYou can write stuff about these companies anywhere on HN, you can post stuff about these companies to HN, etc.
- 0des 4y ago> You can write stuff about these companies anywhere on HN False, you cannot comment on a YC hiring post. Either all posts are treated the same, or they're not. All we are discussing here is the ability to comment, I'm not saying I need a filter toggle, though I'd happily use one.
- pvg 4y agoThese are job ads, you can't go off on tangents in people's job ads on Who's Hiring threads either. All posts are not treated the same and this is one of the biggest not-same type of post on HN. Topicality is pretty important to HN threads. There's really no shortage of ways to be both on topic and say things about more or less any company, YC or not, on HN.
- 0des 4y agoOn a sidenote: why can't we comment on these? I have a feeling I know why, but I need to hear someone with a YC shirt on say it.
- version_five 4y agoI'm not the person you're looking for, but I don't think the reason is anything nefarious. It's just that the posts have a single point, which is to tell you the company is hiring. If you let people comment, it inevitable devolves into some nitpicking or criticism of the company (or more rarely some kind of shilling) which frustrates the purpose of the post. If there is a news story, a "my experience at company X" blogpost, any kind of relevant point to be made about that company, someone could submit that as a story. Letting people comment on job ads would just turn them into lightning rods for whatever bad things people want to say, and then what would be the point? I'm sure I have seen a moderator reply in one of the who is hiring threads saying something similar that allowing comments just attracts criticism and derails the threads
- musicale 4y ago> Letting people comment on job ads would just turn them into lightning rods for whatever bad things people want to say, and then what would be the point Hearing whatever bad (or possibly good) things people have to say about company X is exactly what I would want and would greatly increase the value, of those posts as well as my likelihood of clicking on them.
- stevage 4y agoIsn't it possible someone might have something good to say about the company and why you should work there?
- seanlane 4y agoFor a response "from someone with a YC shirt", see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31602113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31602113 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23285793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23285793
- n42 4y agoI am thoroughly entertained by how this elicited an emotional reaction from me. I guess I feel loyal to the site. Posting this here embodies the spirit of Hacker News in a weirdly layered meta commentary. I’m probably thinking too hard about it but I enjoyed this
- tsol 4y agoHN exists as basically a job board with submissions in between to being people in. But considering how non invasive these ads are I really don't see the issue. I get it, services have to be paid for somehow and I'd rather see some text ads then have my information sold
- itsuka 4y agoI have been using the following script on uBlock Origin for some time. It's quite an ugly selector though: news.ycombinator.com##tr.athing:has(+ tr .subtext .age:first-of-type) news.ycombinator.com##tr:has(> .subtext .age:first-of-type)
- schwede 4y agoI hate ads but in all fairness those posts are the most ideal kind of ad. Eg. It’s targeted by virtue of the website, not by harvested user data
- pcthrowaway 4y agoFor all the people asking HN to just allow comments on their job ads, why not just fork the linked repo and add a side-channel to the job ad posts for discussion? It can even use https://loginwithhn.com/ https://loginwithhn.com/ to guarantee the identities of users
- dorianmariefr 4y agoBest part is "Note: I do not read the orange site."
- unraveller 4y agothanks, ublock can't easily zap them anymore. Here's an installable userscript with this promo hiding technique along with the ability to remove submission in your feed by site. https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/433199-hacker-news-filter-submissions-by-site https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/433199-hacker-news-filter-...